How then, do we move backwards? How does a society, with most of the people having no clue of future events, move from being dependent on a vast and intertwined network of goods and services produced by the indigenous people of whereever, to a local resource and renewable energy based society, and do so in the timeframe available (20-30 years using the most liberal extimates, 10-20 with resonable estimates, 5-10 with worst case scenarios), all the while prices on everything increasing, world politics getting more militaristic, governments continuously reducing civil liberties, shortages of goods on the market and weather patterns resembling bad Hollywood movies?
Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2008 11:41 am Post subject: Re: CNN: Time to consider the 'doomsday scenario'
Zardoz,
You may have it upon a key. If Cal were to succeed they could go to the IMF and plead on the basis of "too big to fail" and the world would bail them out.
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Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2008 3:41 pm Post subject: Re: CNN: Time to consider the 'doomsday scenario'
Zardoz wrote:
ROCKMAN wrote:
...saw a report which showed that if you broke the world up into oil consumers subcompartments, Cal is the 4th largest oil consumer on the planet...
Wow. I guess I shouldn't be surprised by that little stat, though. If California was a sovereign nation, it would have, depending on how you do the calcs, either the 6th, 7th, or 8th-largest economy in the world.
We're going to get our butts kicked so hard when Peak Oil really sets in...
I thought Cal was just the engineering and marketing departments for China?? When China goes under, man (or woman): Are we screwed!
Posted: Sat Jul 12, 2008 7:42 pm Post subject: Re: CNN: Time to consider the 'doomsday scenario'
Zardoz said:
Quote:
We're going to get our butts kicked so hard when Peak Oil really sets in...
Look right, look left; do you see a house that isn’t for sale. Cali is already getting its butt kicked. It just going to get kicked a whole lot harder down the road.
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