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Commanding_Heights
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 Posted: Sat Jul 12, 2008 8:07 am Post subject: At what point do you say F it? |
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I've seen a lot of posts on these boards where people seem to think survival at any cost is the answer. They seem to think survival is some sort of boy scout adventure. Would you really want to go on living locked in a bunker all alone? What happens if your family and friends are caught up in this mass die off that so many seem to yearn for? Don't get me wrong. I'll fight as hard as I can to protect everything near and dear to me but if I can't then to me it's not worth continuing.
So the question is, at what point do you say f**k it? |
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| Posted: Sat Jul 12, 2008 8:32 am Post subject: Re: At what point do you say F it? |
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never say F it. Let the fear drive you to action. Read The Gift of Fear by Gavin De Becker. Excellent read and invaluable in these times.
Do your best to abandon the alone in a bunker mentality. Your odds of survival are directly related to the location and strength of your community. Put your efforts in to maximizing those 2 factors for yourself and those you hold dear.
Your family and friends are probably like mine- uninterested in any sort of serious action now. However when they do reach a point where they realize their current position is unworkable, having a fallback position for them may well save their lives.
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Micki
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| Posted: Sat Jul 12, 2008 9:18 am Post subject: Re: At what point do you say F it? |
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f**k it ....and then what?
You can't erase what you know so it will continue affecting you whether you like it or not. Question is if you intend to try to do the best with this foreknowledge or decide upfront to be among the losers. In the latter case you will have to work harder han others to ignore news around you as you know whats going down...
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darwinsdog
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| Posted: Sat Jul 12, 2008 9:37 am Post subject: Re: At what point do you say F it? |
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>>So the question is, at what point do you say f**k it?<<
That's a personal decision everyone must make for him- herself.
And no one wins, no one loses. Everyone breaks exactly even in life. |
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DoomWarrior
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| Posted: Sat Jul 12, 2008 9:49 am Post subject: Re: At what point do you say F it? |
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| Commanding_Heights wrote: | | So the question is, at what point do you say f**k it? |
Maybe if/when another republican becomes President ...... more than I could bear ......... |
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pstarr
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| Posted: Sat Jul 12, 2008 9:53 am Post subject: Re: At what point do you say F it? |
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You are not designed by you genes to say f@ck it.
I believe you are really asking this question: How do I relieve this doom and pointlessness? I would answer through consideration, planning, and action. Keep reading here and do not let the cornucopians deter you. They were always wrong. Life is hard and always will be. Get used to it.
good luck 
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Ferretlover
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| Posted: Sat Jul 12, 2008 9:58 am Post subject: Re: At what point do you say F it? |
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| Commanding_Heights wrote: | | So the question is, at what point do you say f**k it? |
Whenever you feel the need to do so. And, there are going to be more and more opportunities to feel that need.
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Commanding_Heights
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| Posted: Sat Jul 12, 2008 10:08 am Post subject: Re: At what point do you say F it? |
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| MadScientist wrote: | never say F it. Let the fear drive you to action. Read The Gift of Fear by Gavin De Becker. Excellent read and invaluable in these times.
Do your best to abandon the alone in a bunker mentality. Your odds of survival are directly related to the location and strength of your community. Put your efforts in to maximizing those 2 factors for yourself and those you hold dear.
Your family and friends are probably like mine- uninterested in any sort of serious action now. However when they do reach a point where they realize their current position is unworkable, having a fallback position for them may well save their lives. |
I don't have an alone in the bunker mentality. I have the exact opposite. Like I stated in my original post I wouldn't want to go on without my family and friends. That's the point I'd say F it and have no will to go on living. |
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Commanding_Heights
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| Posted: Sat Jul 12, 2008 10:10 am Post subject: Re: At what point do you say F it? |
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| I guess by everyones responses it's my fault I didn't clarify better what I was really asking. What I am asking is, what would you have to lose in your life to give up the will to live? Or would you never give up even if that meant being locked in a bunker all alone? |
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Ferretlover
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| Posted: Sat Jul 12, 2008 10:16 am Post subject: Re: At what point do you say F it? |
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| Commanding_Heights wrote: | | I guess by everyones responses it's my fault I didn't clarify better what I was really asking. What I am asking is, what would you have to lose in your life to give up the will to live? Or would you never give up even if that meant being locked in a bunker all alone? |
 Yes, that is something to bear in mind. There are a great many smart people here. There are not a great many (if any) pyschics here! I, too, occasionally forget that fact.
I am not giving up anything when I have a choice. And, I have no intention of rolling over and playing dead (unless, of course, it would be to trick the Mutant Zombie Hordes to pass by my carcass! )
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Micki
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| Posted: Sat Jul 12, 2008 10:17 am Post subject: Re: At what point do you say F it? |
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| Quote: | | What I am asking is, what would you have to lose in your life to give up the will to live? |
Oh, like that bad.
That is one of those scenarios that I don't think we can plan for.
While at right mind, I like to think that I wouldn't give up on life no matter what. Simply because we don't know what is ahead of us. And die is something that we will do eventually anyway, so no need to rush.
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Ludi
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| Posted: Sat Jul 12, 2008 10:23 am Post subject: Re: At what point do you say F it? |
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"Never give up! Never surrender!"
(extra special points to anyone who identifies that quote )
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Commanding_Heights
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| Posted: Sat Jul 12, 2008 10:28 am Post subject: Re: At what point do you say F it? |
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| Ludi wrote: | "Never give up! Never surrender!"
(extra special points to anyone who identifies that quote ) |
Does that mean you value quantity of life over quality? |
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Commanding_Heights
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| Posted: Sat Jul 12, 2008 10:30 am Post subject: Re: At what point do you say F it? |
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| Micki wrote: | | Quote: | | What I am asking is, what would you have to lose in your life to give up the will to live? |
Oh, like that bad.
While at right mind, I like to think that I wouldn't give up on life no matter what. |
I'll pose the same question to you that I did to Ludi. Does that mean you value quantity of life over quality? |
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