Posted: Sat Jul 12, 2008 10:19 am Post subject: Re: Matt Simmons uber doomer on CNBC
I am speechless!
This little clip showed it all.... the truth, the denial, the sheer cognitive dissonance, the dropped jaws. It was like they all got slipped the red pill then coughed it up in a hurry.
Hair gel pundit quickly latched on to the old "cyclical" nonsense.
Wow!
Thanks Leanan for putting this on YouTube for us. You're an unsung hero of the revolution. _________________ Dismantle globally, renew locally!
Posted: Sat Jul 12, 2008 10:35 am Post subject: Re: Matt Simmons uber doomer on CNBC
AirlinePilot wrote:
Also note the expression on the face of Mr Terranova as Matt explains the price floor stuff. You can tell he totally rejects the idea of the "bubble" as it means his trading ideas for making huge sums on shorting wont do quite as well as he thought.
I also believe Matt has it a lot more right than anyone else at the moment. Oil is not a bubble, its going to continue to climb in price as the market grasps the fundamentals and it might just be catastrophic to play this blame game we are currently engaged in.
That was at 1:38. Mr Hair Gel (Joe?) nearly cracked his coif. His two eyebrows went off in completely different directions.
After Simmon's calls speculation and OPEC price manipulation 'poppycock,' Mr. HairGel is asked his opinion. He goes off on his "gridlocked premium" theory. Mr. Pundit had no patience for that "What does that question mean?" Gel answers "Drill, not drill, release from the SPR" blah blah blah. And finally the money shot:
Gel: "We have no course of action from the government"
Waiting for daddy to come to the rescue.
Simmons then intentionally messes with Hair Gel's mind and the guy gets twisted up like he was going to spring some of his dyed roots. Ha ha ha _________________ ree rah rip ram. sunofabitch godamn. hidey didey christ almighty. rah rah crap
Posted: Sat Jul 12, 2008 10:59 am Post subject: Re: Matt Simmons uber doomer on CNBC
I used to work in a supermarket when I was going through uni. They generally only carried about 3 days worth of stock on the shelves. That is how far away we are from food shortages ... just 3 days.
Posted: Sat Jul 12, 2008 10:59 am Post subject: Re: Matt Simmons uber doomer on CNBC
jdumars wrote:
Thanks Leanan for putting this on YouTube for us.
You're welcome. I've found YouTube to be a pretty good method of peak oil outreach.
And yeah, Simmons is getting more and more doomerish, perhaps because the reaction to sky-high prices has been rather disappointing. In that Economist article, he said he was planning to start an organic farm in Maine. And said that "Globalization must end." _________________ "The problems of today will not be solved by the same thinking that produced the problems in the first place." - Albert Einstein
Posted: Sat Jul 12, 2008 11:28 am Post subject: Re: Matt Simmons uber doomer on CNBC
Armageddon wrote:
It says the video is no longer available . wtf ?
Really? It's working fine for me. _________________ "The problems of today will not be solved by the same thinking that produced the problems in the first place." - Albert Einstein
Posted: Sat Jul 12, 2008 12:24 pm Post subject: Re: Matt Simmons uber doomer on CNBC
Thanks Leanan, for posting this..
+1 and Lots for Karma..
I'm posting it on Local Boards I frequent...
I agree, everyone is still in a state of Denial...
Some of ya'll should hear the theories on a couple Boating Boards I visit, you would think that you just entered into the "Tin-Foil" Land,(quire the Twilight Zone Music) coming from Supposedly well off, Educated People..
I reside in the Hurricane Zone, I KNOW what happens when a City is cut off from fuel/deliveries for more than a week...
The Natives get restless and Law & Order breaks down FAST..
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Posted: Sat Jul 12, 2008 12:28 pm Post subject: Re: Matt Simmons uber doomer on CNBC
Leanan wrote:
Armageddon wrote:
It says the video is no longer available . wtf ?
Really? It's working fine for me.
Finally, it worked. It said " video no longer available" every time I clicked on it. Weird. But anyway, I wish Matt would talk slower and quit ending his interviews with giving people hope with his solutions. Matt, there are no solutions. Period.
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Posted: Sat Jul 12, 2008 12:36 pm Post subject: Re: Matt Simmons uber doomer on CNBC
Good job with all of these videos. A bunch of great videos up there. _________________ Riches are not from abundance of worldly goods, but from a contented mind.
Posted: Sat Jul 12, 2008 2:22 pm Post subject: Re: Matt Simmons uber doomer on CNBC
What was interesting was Matt said was we should of gone out 10-15 years ago and explore the outer continental shelf, etc to determine and get the areas ready.
Back in 1986, when the price were dropping worldwide, Cheney of all people wanted to tax the imported oil when it went below $24/bl and use the difference to fund exploration and such. He did it when he was a congressman but the bill never went through. That was the political economics back then. Then, the domestic exploration could not afford to pump at that low market price so the wells started to be capped, and we increased our foreign dependence on cheap oil. Food for thought of past actions.
Whether we like Cheney or not, he did make sense to use the tax to go and get domestic oil. As Simmons said in the interview, the government back then should of been opening up the field and getting things ready. The rigs would of been on line by now. Would a Matt Simmons endorse a foreign tariff tax on cheap oil to be used for domestic exploration and rigging? In this interview, he hinted the government should of been looking everywhere on our soil and our seas to get the oil. That could of been subsidized by the tax, which was what Cheney was pushing for. He looked beyond the political economics.
Now, accord to Simmons, it maybe (or is) too late. We bought cheap middle east oil until the demand worldwide got too high, supplies too low, and the price now sky rocketed out of sight. And don't forget, the supply is now peaking or it already peaked, and the worldwide demand keeps growing.
But the past we cannot change, we can only move toward the future, a big unknown future. Simmons is getting HIS GARDEN ready, a millionaire of all people.
Fortunately for CNBC, the host was mature enough to work with the words of Matt Simmons. Could you imagine if it was just those deer-in-the-headlight GenXers and the late baby booms that were on the panel hosting the interview? I'm for sure Mr GelHair had to get his $1000 suit dry cleaned after that oil drilling. _________________ THE SIMPLE LIFE: One frozen pond, a few sticks, a little round puck, and a bunch of rowdy kids.
Posted: Sat Jul 12, 2008 2:51 pm Post subject: Re: Matt Simmons uber doomer on CNBC
That was very subtly stunning to watch.
Simmons has the one qualification those people totaly respect, he has a stratagy to make money out of the current situation. He has been on those shows as the comedy 'alternative' veiw but has been right and has basicaly a stratagy to make money.
With that credibility he just dropped the truth on them. You could see pennies dropping. However by tomorrow they will be convincing themselves that everything is ok.
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Posted: Sat Jul 12, 2008 3:03 pm Post subject: Re: Matt Simmons uber doomer on CNBC
While Simmons spoke late in the day, counterbalancing that earlier in the day Bloomberg had Yergin and Lynch on in seperate appearances.
Those two have never given up hope on the return to $40 oil - or at least some price much less than now. While they don't exactly say all is going to end well, their message is that $145 is just a blip on the way to a much better supply/demand situation for oil. They generally get more air time in the media than Simmons with their upbeat message.
I don't believe anyone in the media has confronted them specifically and stated that "you've been predicting $40 oil for so long, how can you be so wrong?". No, that is never asked, although at least for Simmons he is getting some credit (but not enough) for being way ahead of the curve on PO. _________________ It's already over, now it's just a matter of adjusting.
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