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bobcousins Light Sweet Crude


Joined: Oct 14, 2004 Posts: 1203 Location: Left the cult
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Posted: Sat Jul 12, 2008 3:22 pm Post subject: Re: Matt Simmons uber doomer on CNBC |
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I think the panel just thought Simmons had totally lost it, especially when he said "no food". I fear Simmons will end up like Mike Ruppert, predicting "the US will collapse within 2 weeks" - that was 2 years ago.
I had to laugh at the trader punk, his face was in overdrive. Entertaining to watch, but is US TV really this bad? _________________ It's all downhill from here |
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Ardalla Heavy Crude


Joined: May 23, 2004 Posts: 201 Location: Charlottesville, Virginia
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Posted: Sat Jul 12, 2008 3:48 pm Post subject: Re: Matt Simmons uber doomer on CNBC |
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Well, I agree with what most are saying here. However, when Simmons starts out with "I am just flagergasted at the misinformation ...", I find that hard to believe. I for one am disgusted and pissed off, but flabbergasted and surprised? I don't expect the pundits, economists, oil 'historians' like Yergin, Congress and the Bush Admin to say and behave other than what I see in the media. I would be flaggergasted if they were saying anything else.
At least Bush appears to undersand that this is a supply/demand problem. I'll give him that much. Then in his next breath he emphasizes the necessity of more drilling -- as if that is a short term (or any term) solution. So we are addicted to oil and therefore need more drilling?
Now Bush proposing a sensible energy policy that admiited PO, that would be flabbergasting. |
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PonyBoy78 Tar Sands

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Joined: Aug 19, 2004 Posts: 85 Location: Austin (but moving east soon)
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Posted: Sat Jul 12, 2008 4:00 pm Post subject: Re: Matt Simmons uber doomer on CNBC |
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| bobcousins wrote: | | I had to laugh at the trader punk, his face was in overdrive. Entertaining to watch, but is US TV really this bad? |
Yes, yes it is.
That was a fun clip to watch. Avoid geology at all costs.. just talk about the economics.. |
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mos6507 Fusion


Joined: Aug 03, 2007 Posts: 3638 Location: Boston Suburbs
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Posted: Sat Jul 12, 2008 4:26 pm Post subject: Re: Matt Simmons uber doomer on CNBC |
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Like all peak oil diggs, it's not getting many. Lots of global warming diggs, or gas price whining diggs, but the peak oil message hasn't hit criticial mass. _________________ Peak oil is sort of like a mental Everlasting Gobstopper, except it tastes like ass and you can't get it out of your mouth.
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mos6507 Fusion


Joined: Aug 03, 2007 Posts: 3638 Location: Boston Suburbs
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Posted: Sat Jul 12, 2008 4:29 pm Post subject: Re: Matt Simmons uber doomer on CNBC |
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| Twilight wrote: |
I think Simmons is one year away from ending his interviews with "And you know what, I got mine. I don't know about you."
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Yeah, I see him reaching the Lovelock stage of giving up. Nevertheless, he IS still running his investment firm. _________________ Peak oil is sort of like a mental Everlasting Gobstopper, except it tastes like ass and you can't get it out of your mouth.
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Snowrunner Heavy Crude


Joined: Aug 24, 2005 Posts: 479
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Posted: Sat Jul 12, 2008 5:11 pm Post subject: Re: Matt Simmons uber doomer on CNBC |
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| bobcousins wrote: | | I fear Simmons will end up like Mike Ruppert, predicting "the US will collapse within 2 weeks" - that was 2 years ago. |
It's hard to make these predictions precise, especially in a world that is so heavily interconnected these days.
The core tennet of Ruppert and Simmons though rings true and heck, considering what is happening on the markets right now this may just end up happening sooner than either of us would think / like.
What I find funny is that when I point these things out and my final conclusion about the "end of the American Empire" the majority of people still seem to think that this is the outcome I wish for and usually fire back along the lines of: "Oh, so you rather have China in control?"
*sigh* |
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AlexdeLarge Intermediate Crude


Joined: May 20, 2008 Posts: 669 Location: I have a whole ward
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Posted: Sat Jul 12, 2008 5:17 pm Post subject: Re: Matt Simmons uber doomer on CNBC |
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| Ardalla wrote: |
At least Bush appears to undersand that this is a supply/demand problem. I'll give him that much. Then in his next breath he emphasizes the necessity of more drilling -- as if that is a short term (or any term) solution. So we are addicted to oil and therefore need more drilling?
Now Bush proposing a sensible energy policy that admiited PO, that would be flabbergasting. |
I am so sick and tired of people repeating the same old garbage being spouted by the looney left. Bush is an idiot, Cheney is evil etc. etc.
I can promise you the Bush administration knows about peak oil and has known about it long before most of us had even heard the term. His family is oil. Cheney ran Halliburton, one of the top two oil companies in the world. George Sr. was head of the CIA........so get real people. You may not like their politics, you may not agree about the war, you may not like them personally.
But never assume they are fools. If you want to believe foolish things, just listen to BHO! _________________ Viddy well, little brother. Viddy well. |
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alpha480v Heavy Crude


Joined: Jan 29, 2005 Posts: 318 Location: Western NY
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Posted: Sat Jul 12, 2008 5:46 pm Post subject: Re: Matt Simmons uber doomer on CNBC |
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| Good video. Thanks for posting. Matt Simmons is da man! |
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sameu Intermediate Crude


Joined: Aug 18, 2005 Posts: 529 Location: Belgium, Europe
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Posted: Sat Jul 12, 2008 6:44 pm Post subject: Re: Matt Simmons uber doomer on CNBC |
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he sure is  _________________ www.peakoil.be |
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pstarr Expert


Joined: Sep 27, 2004 Posts: 7089 Location: Behind the Redwood Curtain
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Posted: Sat Jul 12, 2008 7:08 pm Post subject: Re: Matt Simmons uber doomer on CNBC |
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| AlexdeLarge wrote: | | Ardalla wrote: |
At least Bush appears to undersand that this is a supply/demand problem. I'll give him that much. Then in his next breath he emphasizes the necessity of more drilling -- as if that is a short term (or any term) solution. So we are addicted to oil and therefore need more drilling?
Now Bush proposing a sensible energy policy that admiited PO, that would be flabbergasting. |
I am so sick and tired of people repeating the same old garbage being spouted by the looney left. Bush is an idiot, Cheney is evil etc. etc.
I can promise you the Bush administration knows about peak oil and has known about it long before most of us had even heard the term. His family is oil. Cheney ran Halliburton, one of the top two oil companies in the world. George Sr. was head of the CIA........so get real people. You may not like their politics, you may not agree about the war, you may not like them personally.
But never assume they are fools. If you want to believe foolish things, just listen to BHO! | So your proof of executive branch intelligence is leadership in the CIA? But the CIA works for the executive branch. If Bush is stupid then the CIA is stupid.
So if Bush is a dumb cluck, and Cheney is a sneaky pile of shayt, then the the CIA must be the same. Had enough of the looney left or DO YOU WANT MORE  _________________
ree rah rip ram. sunofabitch godamn. hidey didey christ almighty. rah rah crap  |
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AlexdeLarge Intermediate Crude


Joined: May 20, 2008 Posts: 669 Location: I have a whole ward
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Posted: Sat Jul 12, 2008 7:57 pm Post subject: Re: Matt Simmons uber doomer on CNBC |
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Have I Had enough of the looney left or DO I WANT MORE?
I got a funny feeling we are all in for a lot more of the looney left! Change we can believe In.......Nope, Change you better believe it! LOL _________________ Viddy well, little brother. Viddy well. |
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Turlox Tar Sands


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AlexdeLarge Intermediate Crude


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Posted: Sat Jul 12, 2008 8:10 pm Post subject: Re: Matt Simmons uber doomer on CNBC |
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"I, for one, welcome our new * overlords" LOL _________________ Viddy well, little brother. Viddy well. |
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cudabachi Heavy Crude


Joined: Feb 09, 2006 Posts: 398 Location: Venezuela
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Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 12:07 am Post subject: Re: Matt Simmons uber doomer on CNBC |
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| AlexdeLarge wrote: | | Ardalla wrote: |
At least Bush appears to undersand that this is a supply/demand problem. I'll give him that much. Then in his next breath he emphasizes the necessity of more drilling -- as if that is a short term (or any term) solution. So we are addicted to oil and therefore need more drilling?
Now Bush proposing a sensible energy policy that admiited PO, that would be flabbergasting. |
Cheney ran Halliburton, one of the top two oil companies in the world. |
Halliburton and Schlumberger are the top two oil SERVICE companies in the world. |
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NoWorries Tar Sands


Joined: Jun 05, 2008 Posts: 78
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Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 4:15 am Post subject: Re: Matt Simmons uber doomer on CNBC |
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I agree with the other poster who fears Matt Simmons is sounding too shrill in that item. He has great credentials, but I fear he's losing "street cred" by jumping into the most apocalyptic scenario in that type of 6-minute discussion. He should have stuck with known facts (which are damning enough) rather than saying "it's the end of long distance travel" and "we all need to return to villages". Those types of comments would be better placed within the context of an in-depth 1-hour PBS discussion, or some such -- Not a 6-minute sound bite type of program.
I think he really came off quite badly in that piece. Everyone has an "off" day, but you can't afford to have too many "off days" when you're on national TV. I hope he is more focused in the next appearance, because he is a great commentator on this issue. |
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