Joined: Dec 18, 2004 Posts: 4122 Location: One Mile From the Columbia River
Posted: Sat Jul 12, 2008 1:09 pm Post subject: Re: I think I'm losing it...
hermit wrote:
(We dislike guns).
I dislike firearms too. I dislike bows too. And fighting knives (which I have). All weapons bother me somewhat. Especially bows, however. I Rarely fire my weapons other then work related (recent past) and making sure they still function properly.
But I see no correlation whatsoever between not liking guns and resorting to bows. Each may serve a purpose, but to think you can rely solely on bows when things deteriorate in a real nasty manner is a truck load of feel-good dreaming dude.
Become proficient with guns new father. If you don't like them, stash one or two away where they'll be safe and out of your lives until things start falling apart. Know how to use them if the need arises, which isn't too far off, it seems.
Nothing wrong with knowing how to use a bow too. Remember, an arrow can really rip human flesh apart. A very horrible and disfiguring wound is made. Often fatal. Silent. Too freaky for me. Maybe I'll buy a bow and hide it somewhere until it's needed. If my wife found out she would be upset but understanding. Bows scare her too. But thankfully, not guns. _________________ Everything is Impermanent. Shakyamuni Buddha
Posted: Sat Jul 12, 2008 2:33 pm Post subject: Re: I think I'm losing it...
Dumars wrote:
Just telling someone to "man up" is not helpful.
This is a matter of opinion, despite your implication.
I disagree.
In this wussified, pussified world where the Average American male is more likely to know the ingredients in a Appletini or have a copy of GQ laying around the house than to know the approximate weight of oil in his car or be able to bench press the bar, just getting in a guy's face and screaming often does a world of good.
EG.
I was over my in laws the other day. Really good people - really smart father, hard working people, one of them starting to get it but still in denial/bargaining mode - but they are rather soft on their kids.
So the son, who's a great kid with a lot of potential and who would benefit tremendously from a strong, no bull-s--t male voice, is in the kitchen and asks, "mom, can you make me a sandwich?"
From the couch I bark out, "why don't you make it yourself - you're how old? 10? Your hands work, right? You can play that video game for 4 hours straight, so you can probably work the jar lid and the spoon. Make it yourself and stop bothering your mother."
And so he makes it.
The point is, we disagree.
Most men act like boys.
I find that a few seconds of in your face manhood tends to scare a little testosterone out of their nuts for distribution to the brain.
But we can disagree.
Here, let me try your, kinder, gentler way.
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Gee OP, your bow idea sounds swell, and while it's reasonable to have a fear or dislike of firearms, you may want to reconsider, because, while differences can be respected, a bow has . . .
f- it. I can't do it. Who the hell has time for that?
OP, it's simple. Your old life is over. Start a new one. Get your hands dirty. Sharpen your teeth. Swear really loudly for no reason, and particularly if your woman dislikes it. Fix your own toilet. Get mad.
Did you hear me boy?
You want your Mommy?
Your mommy is the one who shoved this whole mess right up your ass.
You want your Mommy?
Get a Glock. It won't continue to breast feed you, but it'll never lie to you about things being ok. In fact, it lives for the proposition that things will, eventually, not be ok anymore. _________________ Massive Human Dieoff must occur as a result of Peak Oil. Many more than half will die. It will occur everywhere, including where you live. If you fail to recognize this, then your odds of living move toward the "going to die" group.
Joined: Aug 03, 2006 Posts: 4070 Location: Graceland
Posted: Sat Jul 12, 2008 3:33 pm Post subject: Re: I think I'm losing it...
Being prepared is MACHO. Strive to be the human equivalent of this:
I'll bet that dude's got nuts for days. I'll bet he's got nuts for his nuts.
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On the subject of weaponry, if you don't want to go the gun route, maybe you could become an expert swordsman.
If you've got the time, go ahead and pick up the whole suite of Ninja skills.
I would start with the throwing stars.
Who knew that they had throwing star ranges?
(I think you can probably work the bow into the Ninja act.)
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Seriously, though, one excellent way to spend some time if you want to make your ass bad is to see if there is a Krav Maga studio in your community. I saw one the other day, and just wasn't aware that this fighting style was being taught in retail locations.
Check it out. _________________
Posted: Sat Jul 12, 2008 6:09 pm Post subject: Re: I think I'm losing it...
sameu wrote:
lol yeah cashmere you're tha man!
A guy criticizing my manliness who is wearing lipstick in his avatar.
Ok. _________________ Massive Human Dieoff must occur as a result of Peak Oil. Many more than half will die. It will occur everywhere, including where you live. If you fail to recognize this, then your odds of living move toward the "going to die" group.
Joined: Dec 27, 2004 Posts: 12024 Location: zombie horde wonderland
Posted: Sat Jul 12, 2008 6:12 pm Post subject: Re: I think I'm losing it...
Cashmere wrote:
From the couch I bark out, "why don't you make it yourself - you're how old? 10? Your hands work, right? You can play that video game for 4 hours straight, so you can probably work the jar lid and the spoon. Make it yourself and stop bothering your mother."
_________________ "...powerdown so soft and fluffy you'll think you're living in a pillow..." - jboogy
Posted: Sat Jul 12, 2008 7:23 pm Post subject: Re: I think I'm losing it...
BigTex wrote:
The scene from Deliverance where Lewis glides in on his canoe and shoots the hillbilly with his recurve bow is about the best movie scene I can think of. The dialogue afterwards is brilliant.
Posted: Sat Jul 12, 2008 7:49 pm Post subject: Re: I think I'm losing it...
I'm with you Cashmere, the wussification of the western male has reached epidemic proportions. Have you ever seen "Men's Health" magazine? It's like Glamour magazine for dudes. It freaked me out that a dude would read this unless he was gay? Maybe it is for gays? I don't know...does someone know?
Like many others, I think hermit is hatching from his soft and fuzzy oil saturated cocoon. The birthing process is always traumatic. So nothing wrong with helping him along and telling him to "man up." Cause that's what dudes and chicks are going to have to do. We can't climb back in the cocoon and attach our umbilical cords to the mothership. We're getting dropped from the nest.
If you don't like guns that's ok, but it's the bullets you should be worried about. I for one don't like automobiles, at all. They kill way more people and wildlife than guns ever did. I've been known to use one on occasion though. So if you don't want a gun, I respect your decision. Just remember that if you do decide you want one it might be too late. I think at some point we will see a run on guns & ammo when all the people that "dislike guns" all of the sudden decide they like'em.
Joined: Aug 03, 2006 Posts: 4070 Location: Graceland
Posted: Sat Jul 12, 2008 8:13 pm Post subject: Re: I think I'm losing it...
If any men are looking for a role model for turbulent times when you need to juice your male mojo a little, Stonewall Jackson is a pretty good one to check out:
Jackson possessed the attributes to succeed against his poorly coordinated and sometimes timid opponents: a combination of great audacity, excellent knowledge and shrewd use of the terrain, and the ability to inspire his troops to great feats of marching and fighting.
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A few moments before he died he cried out in his delirium, "Order A.P. Hill to prepare for action! Pass the infantry to the front rapidly! Tell Major Hawks"—then stopped, leaving the sentence unfinished. Presently a smile of ineffable sweetness spread itself over his pale face, and he said quietly, and with an expression, as if of relief, "Let us cross over the river, and rest under the shade of the trees."
Posted: Sat Jul 12, 2008 8:41 pm Post subject: Re: I think I'm losing it...
I'm going to add Teddy Roosevelt to the man list.
Imagine if we had a dude like this running for president? You could take a bunch of Obamas and Mcstains and stack'em 10 high and they wouldn't get up to Ted's bootlaces.
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Teddy, was the twenty-sixth President of the United States. A leader of the Republican Party and of the Progressive Movement, he was a Governor of New York and a professional historian, naturalist, explorer, author, and soldier. He is most famous for his personality: his energy, his vast range of interests and achievements, his model of masculinity, and his "cowboy" persona. Originating from a story from one of Roosevelt's hunting expeditions, Teddy bears are named after him.
As Assistant Secretary of the Navy, Roosevelt prepared for and advocated war with Spain in 1898. He organized and helped command the 1st U.S. Volunteer Cavalry Regiment — the Rough Riders — during the Spanish-American War. Returning to New York as a war hero, he was elected governor. An avid writer, his 35 books include works on outdoor life, natural history, the American frontier, political history, naval history, and his autobiography
The guy kicked ass, took names, and wrote 35 books.
I live near Olympic National Park, and I have to thank Ted for that too. Ted started it as the "Olympic Elk Reserve," and it contains a distinct subspecies of elk called, naturally, Roosevelt Elk.
Joined: Aug 03, 2006 Posts: 4070 Location: Graceland
Posted: Sat Jul 12, 2008 11:17 pm Post subject: Re: I think I'm losing it...
The three guys I thought of when I did Stonewall Jackson were him, Andrew Jackson and Theodore Roosevelt.
I read Edmund Morris's "The Rise of Theodore Roosevelt" about TR's life up until he became President and it's just an amazing story.
That dude did everything.
Thanks for adding him to The Man List.
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One of the many amazing stories about TR is that when he was running for President in 1912 on the third party Bull Moose ticket (having not approved of the job Taft had done after succeeding him in the 1908 election), he was walking up to the podium to give an outdoor speech when a would-be assassin walked up to him and shot him in the left side of his chest.
TR collected himself after being shot, continued on to the podium and gave an "abbreviated" version of his speech that ran a half hour or so, during which he threw in a little trash talk about the guy who shot him, and THEN went to the hospital for treatment.
Posted: Sat Jul 12, 2008 11:43 pm Post subject: Re: I think I'm losing it...
You know, on the gun thing... I don't like guns. Never did. My husband doesn't either. But I have to say, being a newbie and reading the posts around here, I think I'm changing my mind. I want a gun. And I want to learn how to use it. Then I want to take the bullets out and put it away. I hope to never get it out. But if some bullies who are armed try to come take my things or hurt my family, I'd like a fair fight. If it's my life over someone else's, I want mine. And, besides, we may need it for a squirrel or bird.
And, sometimes people just need a hug. It's hard being a tough guy (girl) all the time. That's why God made Mama's.
Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 12:23 am Post subject: Re: I think I'm losing it...
this is an awesome thread. my kids were rofl on the squirrel pic
/hug Scout
/salute Cashmere
I'd also like to add that you dont need to personally use a gun...As long as you have friends with guns ^ ^. well rounded community is the key. food, shelter, security, health, leadership. _________________ "The future power is manpower"
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