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cestlavie Tar Sands


Joined: Feb 12, 2007 Posts: 79
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Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 12:20 am Post subject: Re: Will you survive the die off? |
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| smallpoxgirl wrote: | | There's still going to be a LOT of oil being produced in 5 years. There will be some people who won't have access to it and may well be dieing off by then, but it probably won't be the people on this list. The average Haitian peasant may be in a world of hurt by then. People with computers and high speed internet, by in large, will be bitching about prices, but by in large they will be safe and well fed. |
However, we arent even on the downslope of world oil production curve yet and are debating how fast the boat is leaking. Well if we dont have a lifejacket we are all going down anyways.
Everyone seems to be planning on having more things, having more growth. No-one seems to be gearing down. I'm the only house in my suburban neighborhood (or entire area) growing lots of stuff. So apparently its collective sleep. Like Tom Brown Jr said "only the children of the earth shall survive.". http://www.cotef.org/tom.html. Events are accelerating now. We dont even know if the world will at war in 5 years. Its an exciting time in history. I dont really know if I want to be a part of it but here I am. |
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americandream Light Sweet Crude

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Joined: Oct 18, 2004 Posts: 1914 Location: kiwibush
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Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 5:50 am Post subject: Re: Will you survive the die off? |
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| smallpoxgirl wrote: | | There's still going to be a LOT of oil being produced in 5 years. There will be some people who won't have access to it and may well be dieing off by then, but it probably won't be the people on this list. The average Haitian peasant may be in a world of hurt by then. People with computers and high speed internet, by in large, will be bitching about prices, but by in large they will be safe and well fed. |
Lol. Smug sounding wooly brained pseudo liberal type I see. Oh, and rather well fed I gather. _________________ Bugger me, I hear oil's runnin out mate! |
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Ludi NeoMaster


Joined: Dec 27, 2004 Posts: 12473 Location: zombie horde wonderland
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Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 6:44 am Post subject: Re: Will you survive the die off? |
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| americandream wrote: |
Have you considered the possibilty of extinction, not merely die off? |
Yep, I sure have. So what? _________________ No original ideas are contained in this post. |
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cestlavie Tar Sands


Joined: Feb 12, 2007 Posts: 79
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Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 6:49 am Post subject: Re: Will you survive the die off? |
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| americandream wrote: | | smallpoxgirl wrote: | | There's still going to be a LOT of oil being produced in 5 years. There will be some people who won't have access to it and may well be dieing off by then, but it probably won't be the people on this list. The average Haitian peasant may be in a world of hurt by then. People with computers and high speed internet, by in large, will be bitching about prices, but by in large they will be safe and well fed. |
Lol. Smug sounding wooly brained pseudo liberal type I see. Oh, and rather well fed I gather. |
Economies are dependent on growth and on the (steep) downslope of oil production there will be cost cutting left and right including your job. Depression means everyone is out of work and the only way to have enough to eat and eat well is to have gardens or forage. Anyone can do that, including people in 3rd world countries. In fact they have an advantage over us because there are people (like my wife from Russia) who still remember the old ways. Here in America I'm not sure we will be able to learn all the old stuff back in time. We wont even wash clothes by hand or arent even sure how to do it. Boy are we in for a rude awakening |
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sameu Intermediate Crude


Joined: Aug 18, 2005 Posts: 529 Location: Belgium, Europe
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Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 7:40 am Post subject: Re: Will you survive the die off? |
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yep, or die trying _________________ www.peakoil.be |
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Heineken Expert


Joined: Sep 14, 2004 Posts: 6428 Location: Rural Virginia
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Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 8:08 am Post subject: Re: Will you survive the die off? |
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I expect to die of a medical problem or an accident before dieoff gets me.
It's interesting how people tend to discount THOSE possibilities. _________________ "Actually, humans died out long ago."
---Abused, abandoned hunting dog
"Things have entered a stage where the only change that is possible is for things to get worse."
---Me and my brother |
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SpringCreekFarm Intermediate Crude


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Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 8:19 am Post subject: Re: Will you survive the die off? |
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| Heineken wrote: | I expect to die of a medical problem or an accident before dieoff gets me.
It's interesting how people tend to discount THOSE possibilities. |
Yea, no kidding Heineken. Death can sneak up on anyone and everyone in this world and then the worry about the dieoff doesn't matter anymore.
I'll probably not survive the dieoff. No one may. Like Ludi says: so what. Imagine a world with no humans. It would be beautiful for it's own sake. To worry about human survival in this world is for one's own ego and their own sake.
For the record, I make preparations because I love the lifestyle it brings, not to survive any dieoff. |
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DoomWarrior Heavy Crude


Joined: May 06, 2008 Posts: 285 Location: Omicron Ceti 3
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Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 8:28 am Post subject: Re: Will you survive the die off? |
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If PO were the only problem, then I'd likely survive dieoff. However, with all of the other sh!t that's brewing, I'm becoming increasingly less confident.
| Heineken wrote: | | I expect to die of a medical problem or an accident before dieoff gets me. |
Agreed. I'll probably die from stepping on a rusty nail while hoeing my garden ........... |
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Ludi NeoMaster


Joined: Dec 27, 2004 Posts: 12473 Location: zombie horde wonderland
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Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 10:22 am Post subject: Re: Will you survive the die off? |
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| DoomWarrior wrote: |
Agreed. I'll probably die from stepping on a rusty nail while hoeing my garden ........... |
Better get that tetanus booster!  _________________ No original ideas are contained in this post. |
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Ludi NeoMaster


Joined: Dec 27, 2004 Posts: 12473 Location: zombie horde wonderland
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Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 10:25 am Post subject: Re: Will you survive the die off? |
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I expect to die of a stroke or pneumonia, as I have been close to one (superhigh blood pressure before getting adequate treatment) and had the other a few times. Fortunately I can afford medications currently, but, if times get tough, I expect not to be able to afford them, and then my chances of dying of one or the other or both (stroke leading to debility leading to pneumonia) go way way up.
Them's the breaks.  _________________ No original ideas are contained in this post. |
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Sys1 Intermediate Crude


Joined: Feb 25, 2005 Posts: 645
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Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 11:27 am Post subject: Re: Will you survive the die off? |
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I don't really worry about dying or not in the next five years from now. In fact, it doesn't interest me. It's so selfish.
I'm really worried about my wife who absolutely needs to take 3 kind of medicines each day in order to survive (She's epileptic). I married her just 6 months ago and I don't want to see her dying in the coming years because the pharmacy is empty... |
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Heineken Expert


Joined: Sep 14, 2004 Posts: 6428 Location: Rural Virginia
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Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 11:29 am Post subject: Re: Will you survive the die off? |
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| SpringCreekFarm wrote: | | I'll probably not survive the dieoff. No one may. Like Ludi says: so what. Imagine a world with no humans. It would be beautiful for its own sake. |
Now you know why we love you so much, SCF. _________________ "Actually, humans died out long ago."
---Abused, abandoned hunting dog
"Things have entered a stage where the only change that is possible is for things to get worse."
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darwinsdog Heavy Crude


Joined: Jun 27, 2008 Posts: 170
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Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 11:33 am Post subject: Re: Will you survive the die off? |
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| My wife of 33 yrs is a diabetic (Type 1 or "juvenile onset," an autoimmune disease, not due to hypernutrition) who has suffered kidney failure & has had a transplant. Not only is she dependent on insulin but also on expensive immunosuppressive drugs like imuran & cyclosporin. Once the well runs dry, she's one of the first to die. She knows it, too. |
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Ludi NeoMaster


Joined: Dec 27, 2004 Posts: 12473 Location: zombie horde wonderland
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Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 11:37 am Post subject: Re: Will you survive the die off? |
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| darwinsdog wrote: | | Once the well runs dry, she's one of the first to die. She knows it, too. |
Folks like her have had Death's hand on their shoulder their whole lives. It's probably hard for most of us to imagine what that's like. _________________ No original ideas are contained in this post. |
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darwinsdog Heavy Crude


Joined: Jun 27, 2008 Posts: 170
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Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 11:46 am Post subject: Re: Will you survive the die off? |
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| Ludi, when my wife & I were married her doctor told me, in rather blunt terms as I recall, that she would suffer kidney failure at some point between her 35th & 45th birthday, and die from it. I was only 20 at the time & 35 to 45 seemed a long ways off. Things turned out exactly as he predicted, except that she didn't die because he had failed to anticipate the rise of dialysis, transplant & immunosuppression technology. She & I have 3 surviving kids & a grandchild. For her 50th birthday a few years ago, the kids staged a big party for their mom. (It was my 50th bd too, but I hadn't beaten the odds like she had, so the focus was entirely on her.) She realizes that she has been living on borrowed time & I think that makes her appreciate every minute of it just that much more. |
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