THE Dream Thread (merged)

pedalling_faster · Intermediate Crude Joined: Dec 10, 2005 Posts: 840

i think when we were taught in public schools that "human beings have 5 senses", that the teachers were simplifying things.

the last time Thanksgiving was on a November 22, was in 2002. it happened to be the biggest day of the year, in terms of wave size, 10 feet @ 17 seconds rolling into Torrey Pines. surfers remember these things.

i was out skin-diving at La Jolla the Tuesday before. it was one of those weeks when you try to escape from work but get drawn in for some project, so it's almost a week of vacation.

i had done that particular swim a lot, 20 or 30 times, where you go from the Shores over to the Cove and then swim in the kelp beds. there's usually other people diving and swimming, also plenty of marine life. seals, leopard sharks, sea bass 4 feet long, etc.

it takes so much preparation, you never abort a dive. between coordinating one's digestive system so that the essential tasks are taken care of before putting on the wetsuit, to driving to the beach, to enduring the first 10 minutes of discomfort as you immerse yourself in 60 degree water, you know there will be some work before you get to the fun part. usually, swimming through seaweed muck in low-visibility is part of the swim. you get inured to these things.

one other thing. the water is about 20 feet deep right off-shore,then drops to 120 feet about a half mile offshore, then plunges to a canyon 2000 feet deep. Great Whites, we are told, go there to give birth. i always thought a mother animal would be hungry after all that work, but with all those millions of swimmer-hours, there hasn't been an attack since about 1950-something.

while i was still near shore, i got a very strange feeling. Terrified. un-explainable heeby-jeeby feeling, like in a good sci-fi movie when you get really scared. like the first time you see Alien, during the Chest-bursting sequence.

i thought, this is silly, just keep swimming. so i kept swimming, but the feeling didn't go away. i kept thinking, "this is SO silly", but there was something in my body that was quite tangible. so, i got out of the water after a half hour, and went and bought a computer. "coincidental laziness", i thought, though i had never aborted a dive or a swim ever ... in 40 years of swimming.

then, 2 days later, the waves came rolling in Thursday Thanksgiving day. nice big day, wave wise.

on Saturday, there was an article in the local paper. a lobster fisherman was out about 1/2 mile west of the cove, pulling up his lobster traps, working from a boat. he saw a large great white Shark eating a mother seal. and decided to call it a workday.

as it turns out, that was about 2 days before my Tuesday dive.

so, i wonder ... what happened ?
* just got lazy once
* the metallic taste and smell of blood in the water.
* a sixth sense that tells us when a large animal is
nearby, hunting for food.
* the ability to feel the fear of the seals

it gets a little wierder. a year later, 2003, i was at the YMCA in North County, in the pool. i see another guy standing at the edge of the pool. bodysurfer, i knew it. i asked him if he surfed, he said he was into body-surfing.

he went out the day after Thanksgiving 2002, at a beach 2 miles north of La Jolla Shores, Torrey Pines. the waves were a little smaller, but still big, for San Diego. the kind of day a surfer waits all year for.

he also got a heeby-jeeby feeling, and got out of the water. He said that was the only time in his life that he had that happen, cut a surfing session short because he felt inexplicably scared.

anyway, i always wanted to collect the birthdays of the people involved, and give the information to an astrologer. i think it would make an interesting case study.

but, i accept that some things we can feel, but not understand.

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as far as the 11-11 thing, my guess is it means something.

yeahbut · Heavy Crude Joined: Oct 30, 2007 Posts: 292

{merged with Dream thread-FL}
I guess it had to happen, with the crash course I've had over the last couple of years, and the startling speed that some of the early effects of PO seem to be happening all around us.
A couple of weeks ago I woke up feeling very freaked out and extremely grateful to be awake and to realise I still had some time left to get my sh*t together. Only a few minutes before, I had been stuck in a horrible, '28 Days Later' type atmosphere, running and hiding thru a very threatening apocalyptic cityscape. My girlfriend and I took refuge in a carpark building where there were lots of hungry, dirty, crying people, wrapped in old blankets and asking for food. It was fooking awful. Never been so glad to wake up. Have got a bit more motivated on old Pops' "make a plan and work it" level since then...
Anyone else had something like this? Or am I once again the solitary victim of an over-active imagination...

Ferretlover · Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 10:22 am Post subject: Re: First peak oil nightmare

No, you are not alone. Believe me, you are not alone. (I need to find all the posts about PO nightmares, and merge them-quite enlightning!)
The subconcious never sleeps.
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"RRrrruuuunnnn!!!" ~Apocalypto

Peleg · Heavy Crude Joined: May 20, 2008 Posts: 391

That would be a great thread to put in the psychology forum. I find that prayer helps with nightmares, but also planning. Just take some time to talk with someone you love about the issues and think contingency. if this happens this would be wise, etc. That does not make the issue go away but people do need to feel like a) the evils of the past can be overcome and left behind b) the evils of the future are at least being planned for. Surrounding yourself with people you love and trust can help too, even if they do not see things the way you do such people will not be averse to talking about things with you and that in itself can be reassuring.

God bless.

cannedsalmon · Tar Sands Joined: Jun 29, 2008 Posts: 61

I had a dream, I was walking down an unused road, and passed a sign that said "Peak Processed food here"

Opies · Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 3:11 pm Post subject: Re: First peak oil nightmare

I've had a few doomer dreams now.

First one I had I was in a grocery store and I guess crap hit the fan and it went from being a normal situation to having walls collapse, people grabbing everything, cars flipped over and on fire. I just remember grabbing as much medicine as I could then booking it out of there and trying to find my family.

Second one I had I was in New York (never been, but I'm sure thats where I was) and I watched a nuke fall on the city, quite a ways away. I ducked and turned the other way when it dropped as to not go blind, then all the feelings sunk in. Panic, fear, desperation, hopelessness. It was a dream and not real, but the feelings were very vivid and I won't soon forget how I felt.

mystiek · Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 9:40 pm Post subject: Re: THE Dream Thread (merged)

My relative has prophetic dreams at times. He is definitely not someone that "seeks" these dreams and its very disturbing when they occur. There's several big events that happened that he had dreams prior. One was the space shuttle that blew up in the 80's-neither one of us had been following the news since we were both working for an engineering company and the place we were renting didn't have good tv reception-the next day it was announced the shuttle blew up-so we watched it on someone elses tv and my relative turned pale-it was exactly as he had dreamed. Recently he had a dream that he was holding my youngest son up in his arms trying to "escape" from an area that just had been hit by a nuclear explosion. He said there was like "white-gray ash" falling all around him. He wasn't sure where he was or where the nuke attack occurred. I sure hope this wasn't one of these prophetic dreams! We are Christians and I know he prays for wisdom regarding these dreams because not every dream has some significance-they're just dreams-active subconscious (or perhaps ate too much pizza before going to sleep). However, I have reminded him of the verse in Joel 2:28 about the last days-..."that I will pour out My Spirit on all mankind; and your sons and daughters will prophesy, your old men will dream dreams, your young men will see visions".