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PostPosted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 8:09 am    Post subject: Tarps...whaqt do you rec? Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Here is one I found. seems kinda pricey.

http://www.eaglesnestoutfittersinc.com/flex-fly-rain-tarp.html

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 8:30 am    Post subject: Re: Tarps...whaqt do you rec? Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

That seems like a rip off. Check Gander Mtn, Cabelas, etc. You should be able to find a used circus tent for that much Smile
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 8:38 am    Post subject: Re: Tarps...whaqt do you rec? Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

You can do as well with a treated nylon tarp and some salvage poles. Personally I always used a reinforced "emergency blanket type tarp" - (quick google found coghlans reinforced to be the type) and then just made poles from local trees if I was in the mood for poles. Those type tarps have a layer or mylar which considerably increases the insulation. Carry that and a small roll of sturdy line. Cost - $15 bucks or so. I have camped in such a rig even in winter weather. Just situate it correctly and pile oak leaves or pine needles up over the back or taco yourself in it and burrow under the leaves.

If you want to go more spendy then maybe a black diamond pyramid tent or something like that would be the way to go. You could also just pick up a replacement tent fly for one of the larger tents and rig your own poles. Some of the Sierra designs tents can be set up with just fly and poles also.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 9:26 am    Post subject: Re: Tarps...whaqt do you rec? Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Those plastic tarps only last a season or two out in the desert, and probably not much longer elsewhere. If the tarp is protected from uv exposure it will last much longer. A durable paint like elastomeric or roof coating could work for several years. It would be best to keep it covered with some locally available natural materials.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 9:38 am    Post subject: Re: Tarps...whaqt do you rec? Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Very true. I wouldn't plan on one lasting more than a few months really under heavy use. For a real long term solution I would suggest a canvas/linseed oiled type. Treated nylon will last fairly long also. Most anything will be trashed after 2-3 years in the sun however.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 9:54 am    Post subject: Re: Tarps...whaqt do you rec? Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Here's a huge 16' X 20' cheapo tarp for $38 including shipping on e-bay.


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Quality canvas tarps can be found for the same price on e-bay, but they're only 7' X 9'.

Either way, if concealment is desired, put one of these on top:



It will also keep some of the UV rays off the tarp.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 10:14 am    Post subject: Re: Tarps...whaqt do you rec? Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Those blue plastic tarps are worthless. They photodegrade in a matter of months. A few years back they might have lasted a couple years, at most, but now they don't even last one season. I think that the manufacturers are intentionally making them to degrade quicker, so you have to buy them more often. Stick with canvas.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 10:25 am    Post subject: Re: Tarps...whaqt do you rec? Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

I think it depends on what you're trying to do with the tarp.

For backpacking, IMHO, coated nylon tarps are the only way to go. Something like this: link. They're expensive, but a 12X9 tarp like that will pack down to about the size of a softball. For car camping or protecting a building while you reroof or something, then I'd go with the polyethylene tarps from Home Depot. Blue for light duty. Brown for heavier duty and longer life.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 10:31 am    Post subject: Re: Tarps...whaqt do you rec? Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Expensive industrial tarps, but they are good
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 12:42 pm    Post subject: Re: Tarps...whaqt do you rec? Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

smallpoxgirl wrote:
I think it depends on what you're trying to do with the tarp.

For backpacking, IMHO, coated nylon tarps are the only way to go. Something like this: link. They're expensive, but a 12X9 tarp like that will pack down to about the size of a softball. For car camping or protecting a building while you reroof or something, then I'd go with the polyethylene tarps from Home Depot. Blue for light duty. Brown for heavier duty and longer life.


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I own several tarps. One of them is a silicone impregnated tarp that came with my Hennessey Hammock. You are paying for the weight savings and trading off durability and cost. I still have my $10 8x12 Kmart tarp I purchased in 1985 to go backpacking in North Carolina. It's covering the seat of our tractor. Although the brass grommets are starting to rust it could still hold up to a full blast of a garden hose.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 3:33 pm    Post subject: Re: Tarps...whaqt do you rec? Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

For our farm, we have recently purchased several 10 ' x 40' very heavy uv protected tarps that were once billboard ads. They were about $30 each and we agreed to place the ad side down and the white (or black) side up. Check with billboard companies for availability.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 14, 2008 5:00 am    Post subject: Re: Tarps...whaqt do you rec? Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

frankthetank wrote:
That seems like a rip off. Check Gander Mtn, Cabelas, etc. You should be able to find a used circus tent for that much Smile

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 14, 2008 6:18 am    Post subject: Re: Tarps...whaqt do you rec? Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

I recommend getting TARP(troubled asset relief program) brand. You don't have to pay for it, and with it you could probably buy several square miles of high durability plastic coverings.

One real note, when I put up a tarp I put a golfball sized stone in each corner, and tie the rope around those before I string the tarp up. Gromets don't hold up well.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 14, 2008 6:49 am    Post subject: Re: Tarps...whaqt do you rec? Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Think of the tarp as just a mounting surface, bot protection in and of itself. Once you set it up, cover it with leaves or newspaper, whatever you can scavenge. Protect the tarp from UV. Its a temporary solution anyhow.

Make Thatch from grasses. Bundle the thatch layer it on the tarp Gradually replace the tarp with sinew and bark, whatever is available.

Plenty of materials will e available to scavenge and to use from what grows. Your tarps are just a bridge here to last a year or two most. After that, you gotta figure out how to make your shelter from wht surrounds you.

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 14, 2008 7:32 am    Post subject: Re: Tarps...whaqt do you rec? Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

OSH (orchard supply) had a sale last Saturday.

2 8x10 tarps, the blue ones, for $6.99.
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