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Cashmere Light Sweet Crude


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Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 11:12 am Post subject: U.S. to Station Diplomats in Iran!!! |
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Unbelievable.
The best news that I have read in a very long time.
Maybe, just maybe, Bush and the TPTB actually concluded that there was no way to attack Iran and not cause TEOTWAWKI.
Really. I'm speechless.
How is this not front page news in every U.S. news outlet?
Haaretz Link _________________ Massive Human Dieoff must occur as a result of Peak Oil. Many more than half will die. It will occur everywhere, including where you live. If you fail to recognize this, then your odds of living move toward the "going to die" group. |
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Nickel Light Sweet Crude


Joined: Jun 26, 2007 Posts: 1620 Location: The Canada of America
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Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 11:16 am Post subject: Re: U.S. to Station Diplomats in Iran!!! |
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I can't believe Israel's allowing this. They're either asleep or they haven't paid the rent on Capitol Hill this month. _________________ I can has cheezburger? |
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Cashmere Light Sweet Crude


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Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 11:18 am Post subject: Re: U.S. to Station Diplomats in Iran!!! |
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Really very bad news for Israel, IMO.
This means that any attack on Iran would immediately result in the death/capture of diplomats.
Is it possible that this is true? Am I dreaming?
Is this only a ruse to try to get Iran to relax before a bombing? _________________ Massive Human Dieoff must occur as a result of Peak Oil. Many more than half will die. It will occur everywhere, including where you live. If you fail to recognize this, then your odds of living move toward the "going to die" group. |
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Nickel Light Sweet Crude


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Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 11:22 am Post subject: Re: U.S. to Station Diplomats in Iran!!! |
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| Cashmere wrote: | | Is this only a ruse to try to get Iran to relax before a bombing? |
Like the "friendship medals" Japan gave the US prior to Pearl Harbor? It's possible, I suppose. _________________ I can has cheezburger? |
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jbrovont Intermediate Crude


Joined: Jun 16, 2006 Posts: 701
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Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 11:25 am Post subject: Re: U.S. to Station Diplomats in Iran!!! |
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I see a couple of possibilities here. Yes (hopefully) the administration realized that lighting a match in a room full of gasoline vapors is a bad idea. They could also be distancing themselves from a unilateral attack by Israel - "Look see we were trying to negotiate! It wasn't me!" or, they could be setting up negotiations to "break down" and thus justify a joint attack.
Are they really going there to negotiate, or are they giong there to make demands that they know Iran will reject? What happens when they demand Iran to stop enrichment, and Iran tells them to jog off? Even worse, what if some "terrorists" take the diplomats hostage, or kill them? Granted, these are all "what-ifs," but I find it difficult to take this administration at face value considering their track record. |
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Shannymara Moderator


Joined: Oct 04, 2004 Posts: 5715 Location: Body in OK, Heart in TX
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Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 11:36 am Post subject: Re: U.S. to Station Diplomats in Iran!!! |
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Perhaps they are doing it to calm fears about an attack thus lowering oil prices. _________________ "Every junkie's like a setting sun..." - Neil Young |
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coyote News Editor


Joined: Oct 23, 2005 Posts: 1851 Location: East of Eden
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Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 11:42 am Post subject: Re: U.S. to Station Diplomats in Iran!!! |
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That is good news indeed. I was really beginning to worry lately that our mad cowboy was going to strike again before leaving office. Here's hoping this marks a real shift in our policy, and the eventual marginalization of Ahmedinejad. _________________ "If a path to the better there be, it begins with a full look at the worst." — Thomas Hardy |
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MD Community Manager

Joined: May 02, 2005 Posts: 3542 Location: On the ball
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Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 11:49 am Post subject: Re: U.S. to Station Diplomats in Iran!!! |
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Money is moving from oil to stocks and the market reporters are all giddy and smiling and gushing over all the positives from every angle.
It's so nice to see everyone happy and smiling!
 _________________ "It's still all about energy!"
Waiting for the next bounce - md@peakoil.com |
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Nickel Light Sweet Crude


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Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 12:01 pm Post subject: Re: U.S. to Station Diplomats in Iran!!! |
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| jbrovont wrote: | | They could also be distancing themselves from a unilateral attack by Israel - "Look see we were trying to negotiate! It wasn't me!" |
I'd be surprised if this were it. Things would get very rough for Israel if it suddenly became apparent it did not have the unconditional support of the United States. They might actually have to start MEANING it when they say they're looking for more land, uh, peace from their neighbours.... _________________ I can has cheezburger? |
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Cashmere Light Sweet Crude


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Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 12:14 pm Post subject: Re: U.S. to Station Diplomats in Iran!!! |
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| Shannymara wrote: | | Perhaps they are doing it to calm fears about an attack thus lowering oil prices. |
It's working.
Oil at 130 and heading south. _________________ Massive Human Dieoff must occur as a result of Peak Oil. Many more than half will die. It will occur everywhere, including where you live. If you fail to recognize this, then your odds of living move toward the "going to die" group. |
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DefiledEngine Heavy Crude


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Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 12:18 pm Post subject: Re: U.S. to Station Diplomats in Iran!!! |
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I think the Administration is pulling the ol' Kansas city shuffle:
Its a blindfold kick back type of a game
Callled the Kansas City Shuffle
Whereas you look left and they fall right
Into the Kansas City Shuffle
Its a they-think you-think you don't know
Type of Kansas City hustle
Where you take your time
Wait your turn
And hang them up, and out to dry
Its a shakedown switch arrive in town
Type of Kansas City Shuffle
Gotta' make both sides and let it ride
On the Kansas City Shuffle
Now the tables turned the lessons learned
You've gotta earn yourself some trouble
Revenge like this, never sweet-
You've got yourself a long ride home |
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Shannymara Moderator


Joined: Oct 04, 2004 Posts: 5715 Location: Body in OK, Heart in TX
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Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 1:04 pm Post subject: Re: U.S. to Station Diplomats in Iran!!! |
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| Cashmere wrote: | | Shannymara wrote: | | Perhaps they are doing it to calm fears about an attack thus lowering oil prices. |
It's working.
Oil at 130 and heading south. |
Yay! I win!
If that's the purpose, or at least part of it, gotta say it's a pretty sharp idea. _________________ "Every junkie's like a setting sun..." - Neil Young |
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mos6507 Fusion

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Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 1:22 pm Post subject: Re: U.S. to Station Diplomats in Iran!!! |
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| Shannymara wrote: | | Cashmere wrote: | | Shannymara wrote: | | Perhaps they are doing it to calm fears about an attack thus lowering oil prices. |
It's working.
Oil at 130 and heading south. |
Yay! I win!
If that's the purpose, or at least part of it, gotta say it's a pretty sharp idea. |
Funny thing. Half of the time TPTB are accused of doing things to intentionally run up oil prices and help BigOil profiteering. Now it's a conspiracy to lower oil prices and take the strain off the greater economy? Make up your tinfoil-covered minds. _________________ http://doomsteaddiary.blogspot.com/ |
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FoxV Light Sweet Crude


Joined: Mar 02, 2005 Posts: 1337 Location: Canada
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Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 1:28 pm Post subject: Re: U.S. to Station Diplomats in Iran!!! |
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I call BullShit
| Quote: | The U.S. informed Israel of its plans to send Burns to the talks, emphasizing that this is a one-time meeting and not a change in policy.
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The U.S. also claims it is sending an envoy to the talks because it "doesn't trust" the reports from EU foreign policy chief Javier Solana, the liaison with the Iranians. The Americans said Solana "pulls the wool over our eyes," according to the source in Jerusalem.
Israel emphasized to the U.S. that "there is great importance in maintaining the international demand to suspend uranium enrichment, as mandated by the UN resolution, as a precondition to entering negotiations with Iran. We believe there can be no concession on this demand," the source said. The Americans responded that "the condition remains." |
It looks like to me that this is a last show to appear the good guys before the bombs start flying. They'll come in with all smilling faces, make all kinds of demands that Iran can't accept and then say to the world "Hey look, We tried everything we could, but obviously there's only one solution"
I see this more as a prelude to war than an act of peace
And keep in mind its not like the ambassadors are going to setup an office in Tehran tomorrow at the local Hyatt. If this is a legitimate offer it'll take a couple of years before anybody is actually over there. And anything could happen by then
In the meantime look at the effect, Oil's down, Gold's down. Happy days are here again. |
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Shannymara Moderator


Joined: Oct 04, 2004 Posts: 5715 Location: Body in OK, Heart in TX
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Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 1:30 pm Post subject: Re: U.S. to Station Diplomats in Iran!!! |
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| mos6507 wrote: | | Half of the time TPTB are accused of doing things to intentionally run up oil prices and help BigOil profiteering. Now it's a conspiracy to lower oil prices and take the strain off the greater economy? Make up your tinfoil-covered minds. |
Why would making a gesture to indicate they don't intend to attack soon be considered a conspiracy? And since when did I suggest TPTB are deliberately driving up oil prices? I'm in the other camp on that one; I think they'd prefer to keep prices down. But this is all speculation, of course.
Anyway, I resent your insult, but I'll let it go. _________________ "Every junkie's like a setting sun..." - Neil Young |
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