Like the illusion of Wall Street, with its vast and powerful investment banks, now shuttered, China too is an illusion perpetuated by the Globalists that gave us the 15,000 mile Caesar salad, poisoned cat food and lead based paint on babies' pacifiers. Like the illusion that money would come from thin air to always push housing prices higher, China has spent a generation pursuing its illusion. Pursuing an unattainable dream to be like the West, while 6000 years of its carefully shepherded top soil blows into the sea.
Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 6:08 am Post subject: Re: Energy bills to rise by more than 60% . TSHHTF
As this is a tad bove the current 3.8% UK inflation rate and a bit more above the target 2%, I guess we will see some pretty serious wage claims in the near future and inflation rate to match Zimbabwe.
All we have to do is invade Russia and grab the gas, what's stopping us? _________________ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xSFLSTb5KfU
Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 6:31 am Post subject: Re: Energy bills to rise by more than 60% . TSHHTF
KevO wrote:
As this is a tad bove the current 3.8% UK inflation rate and a bit more above the target 2%, I guess we will see some pretty serious wage claims in the near future and inflation rate to match Zimbabwe.
All we have to do is invade Russia and grab the gas, what's stopping us?
Invade Russia during the winter.. excellent plan. I'm sure our leaders will go for it.
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Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 6:36 am Post subject: Re: Energy bills to rise by more than 60% . TSHHTF
fluffy wrote:
KevO wrote:
As this is a tad bove the current 3.8% UK inflation rate and a bit more above the target 2%, I guess we will see some pretty serious wage claims in the near future and inflation rate to match Zimbabwe.
All we have to do is invade Russia and grab the gas, what's stopping us?
Invade Russia during the winter.. excellent plan. I'm sure our leaders will go for it.
UK invades Russia,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,battle lasts two days.
When the oil price rises, the gas price follows, typically with a lag of about nine months. A report this week from Cambridge Energy Research Associates, another consultancy, predicted that European gas prices would roughly double from the start of 2008 to April 2009, as a result of the rise in oil from about $70 a barrel a year ago to roughly $140 a barrel today.
Methinks I'll be wearing an extra layer or two this winter.
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Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 7:26 am Post subject: Re: Energy bills to rise by more than 60% . TSHHTF
Here in Upstate New york, the papers have taken to warning folks that they can expect to pay an extra $700 + for fuel oil this winter. The local suppliers have stopped taking pre-pay purchases at a locked in rate.
Olafr _________________ "I went to the woods because I wished to live deliberately, to front only the essential facts of life, and see if I could not learn what it had to teach, and not, when I came to die, discover that I had not lived." - Henry David Thoreau
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Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 7:39 am Post subject: Re: Energy bills to rise by more than 60% . TSHHTF
Olaf wrote:
Here in Upstate New york, the papers have taken to warning folks that they can expect to pay an extra $700 + for fuel oil this winter. The local suppliers have stopped taking pre-pay purchases at a locked in rate.
Olafr
I'd be putting my money into an extra tank and fill that baby up as well to hedge for next year's price increases. Or switch over the NG and do the same thing with an extra tank or two as well as a wood burning furnace and extra coats to make those tanks last several years.
But I'm in the warm South, so I'm fine as is. _________________ Riches are not from abundance of worldly goods, but from a contented mind.
Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 8:43 am Post subject: Re: Energy bills to rise by more than 60% . TSHHTF
KevO wrote:
As this is a tad bove the current 3.8% UK inflation rate and a bit more above the target 2%, I guess we will see some pretty serious wage claims in the near future and inflation rate to match Zimbabwe.
lol good luck with catching up with that kind of inflation _________________ Tired of high gas prices? Then stop driving to work, duh..... Learn to Work from home
Joined: May 24, 2008 Posts: 130 Location: Park County, Wyoming
Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 12:53 pm Post subject: Re: Energy bills to rise by more than 60% . TSHHTF
Evidently, the energy companies are expecting a lot of consumers will be unwilling/unable to pay for heating costs this coming fall & winter.
Here in NW Wyoming, one of the largest suppliers of home heating propane has sent notification to all of their customers... advising that all future deliveries of propane will be CASH/CREDIT CARD ON DELIVERY... no more "on account" sales. _________________ Be yourself... Everyone else is already taken.
Joined: May 30, 2008 Posts: 297 Location: On the highway, or the water somewhere!
Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 1:27 pm Post subject: Re: Energy bills to rise by more than 60% . TSHHTF
WyoDutch wrote:
Evidently, the energy companies are expecting a lot of consumers will be unwilling/unable to pay for heating costs this coming fall & winter.
Here in NW Wyoming, one of the largest suppliers of home heating propane has sent notification to all of their customers... advising that all future deliveries of propane will be CASH/CREDIT CARD ON DELIVERY... no more "on account" sales.
My supplier said the same in Alabama when I topped of the 1000 gallon tank that furnishes gas to my stove... I should nt have to use the wood cook stove for the next 5 years...LOL unless grandma uses the oven to add heat to the house. ( she gets tired of splitting wood for the heater....) _________________ Courtesy and Courage, Sincerity and Self-control, Honor and Loyalty...a Code to Live By!
Where is my wooden pitchfork and torch anyway? I may need them for a visit to the castle soon!
Joined: Aug 18, 2005 Posts: 532 Location: Belgium, Europe
Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 2:36 pm Post subject: Re: Energy bills to rise by more than 60% . TSHHTF
year after year it will get worse
people like to hope oil is gonna come down, that this is only temporarily
it will be hard _________________ www.peakoil.be
Joined: Apr 08, 2006 Posts: 1464 Location: Somewhere there
Posted: Sat Jul 19, 2008 2:50 pm Post subject: Re: Energy bills to rise by more than 60% . TSHHTF
fluffy wrote:
KevO wrote:
As this is a tad bove the current 3.8% UK inflation rate and a bit more above the target 2%, I guess we will see some pretty serious wage claims in the near future and inflation rate to match Zimbabwe.
All we have to do is invade Russia and grab the gas, what's stopping us?
Invade Russia during the winter.. excellent plan. I'm sure our leaders will go for it.
Last winter Mioscow didnt have snow till mid-January or so .
Posted: Sat Jul 19, 2008 3:38 pm Post subject: Re: Energy bills to rise by more than 60% . TSHHTF
There was a bit on NPR recently (Talk of the Nation?) that advised listeners that within 2-3 years, the cost to heat a home via electric versus gas/oil would be about the same, and that people needed to get ready for that now.
If that's the case, plug-in hybrids + increased electric heat is going to kill the grid as it stands right now. At least, my electric meter spins 50% faster when the heat's running versus the A/C.
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Then stop driving to work, duh..... 
