For a minute there I thought I had to get off my couch, when all the while the fact is we don't have to do anything much but keep things afloat for just a few decades more! In fact, we'd best shut up about PO, because if our offspring finds out we knew about it all along, they'll turn and wring our necks come 2036!
site _________________ "There must be a bogeyman; there always is, and it cannot be something as esoteric as "resource depletion." You can't go to war with that." Emersonbiggins
"... hope is a rotten-thighed whore" Niko Kazantzakis
Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 11:23 pm Post subject: Re: Jay Hanson's First "vid" on Limits to Growth
Yes. Stark indeed. I assume the "one barrel invested" he's talking about is not actually a barrel of oil but the equivalent energy amount. Right? Clearly 1:1 is a crappy EROEI, but it may not necessarily be the wash it would seem if you're trading 1 BTU of coal fired electricity for 1 BTU of crude oil, since the BTU of crude offers more potential uses. Still I didn't realize the EROEI here had gotten that bad. _________________ "I was born in a deep forest
I wish I could live here all my life
I am made from stones and roots
My home, these woods and roads
All my life I loved this sound
Of the woods all around
Eagles fly where the winds blow free" -Korpiklaani
"Overshoot and Carrying Capacity" (OCC) is the place to discuss all issues related to just that, overshoot, carrying capacity and the consequences there of. There are a number of things that you need to know about this new forum.
1. This is the place where these issues are to be discussed. All attempts to discuss the issue in other forums will be moved to OCC.
rocc said the bad words! Take him away to the 're-education' forum
Wow. Is this really happening? Here, of all places?
"Overshoot and Carrying Capacity" (OCC) is the place to discuss all issues related to just that, overshoot, carrying capacity and the consequences there of. There are a number of things that you need to know about this new forum.
1. This is the place where these issues are to be discussed. All attempts to discuss the issue in other forums will be moved to OCC.
rocc said the bad words! Take him away to the 're-education' forum
Wow. Is this really happening? Here, of all places?
Hmmm...was not aware of these new places ...new faces.
Mods - move...merge...at will.
Jay should have his own thread, but whatever makes sense to the hive. _________________ "There must be a bogeyman; there always is, and it cannot be something as esoteric as "resource depletion." You can't go to war with that." Emersonbiggins
"... hope is a rotten-thighed whore" Niko Kazantzakis
Posted: Sat Jul 19, 2008 6:56 am Post subject: Re: Jay Hanson's First "vid" on Limits to Growth
yeahbut wrote:
rocc said the bad words! Take him away to the 're-education' forum
As far as I'm aware saying the words has not become taboo. If this thread becomes a discussion of those topics, then maybe it will need to be moved. _________________ "I was born in a deep forest
I wish I could live here all my life
I am made from stones and roots
My home, these woods and roads
All my life I loved this sound
Of the woods all around
Eagles fly where the winds blow free" -Korpiklaani
Posted: Sat Jul 19, 2008 2:54 pm Post subject: Re: Jay Hanson's First "vid" on Limits to Growth
smallpoxgirl wrote:
yeahbut wrote:
rocc said the bad words! Take him away to the 're-education' forum
As far as I'm aware saying the words has not become taboo. If this thread becomes a discussion of those topics, then maybe it will need to be moved.
I'm sure it won't come up. Any mention of overshoot or carrying capacity while discussing a vid about the limits to growth would be wilful and inflammatory with no relevance to the topic
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