[Food] Production - Trees

PhebaAndThePilgrim · Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2008 4:07 pm Post subject: Re: Sick tart cherry tree

Good day from Pheba, from the farm: How much rain have you had this summer? We have had more rain this spring than in the last 15 years. I raise roses, and they have been decimated with blackspot, a fungal infection.
Your leaf looks just like blackspot, I did not know cherry trees got blackspot, but it is worth investigating.
Here is what you can do to help if it is blackspot:

Cornell University recipe for blackspot.
1 gallon water in a sprayer.
Add to this,
1 heaping tablespoon of baking soda,
1 small squirt dish soap,
1 tablespoon of horticultural oil (kitchen oil will do in a pinch. Do not use motor oil of any kind!)

Mix and shake well. Spray on tree once each week.
Clean up all fallen leaves. They contain the fungus and are giving off spores.

Remove old mulch from around tree, and spread fresh mulch.
Spray mulch with cornell recipe also.

Hope this helps. helped roses a bit, but not much. They are so bad this year I have all but given up.
I ordered a fresh truckload of mulch, but have not been able to apply it yet because I sprained my ankle.

Pheba.

pstarr · Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2008 4:33 pm Post subject: Re: Sick tart cherry tree

I'm looking at that little track across the leaf and thinking it looks like what I found on my cherry leaves, the cherry slug? They look like tiny leeches and are larva of glossy black sawfly.

I hosed them off but they will climb back up. Got to tape the trunks.
_________________
director

ree rah rip ram. sunofabitch godamn. hidey didey christ almighty. rah rah crap wav

frankthetank · Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2008 5:03 pm Post subject: Re: [Food] Production - Trees

I have mildew on my sour cherry tree (Meteor). I wonder if it spread from my lilacs that get it EVERY year. We've also been really wet here...
_________________
"Oil is going up because we use too much oil, and the capacity to replace reserves is dwindling"
-President Bush 11/07/07

Cashmere · Light Sweet Crude Joined: Mar 27, 2008 Posts: 1971

Been really wet here.

You look to have a virus and a leafminer.
_________________
Massive Human Dieoff must occur as a result of Peak Oil. Many more than half will die. It will occur everywhere, including where you live. If you fail to recognize this, then your odds of living move toward the "going to die" group.

heartandseoul · Tar Sands Joined: May 29, 2008 Posts: 31

Hi all,
I'm working on my garden but in addition I would like to add a nut tree to my property.
I am looking in catalogs for possible trees but I can't seem to find anything that would be good for a beginner.
I'm pretty good with vegetables but I've never planted a nut tree before.
I am in Ohio in planting zone 6. Any suggestions? thanks!

Heineken · Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2008 7:36 am Post subject: Re: [Food] Production - Trees

Heartandseoul, I have the perfect recommendation for you: heartnut trees, aka Japanese walnuts. They should do beautifully in Ohio, which is great nut-tree country. I have four of them myself here in the less nut-friendly land of central Virginia, and they're doing amazingly well.

They don't need a lot of special care. Protect the seedling from animals with a circular welded-wire cage. Don't fertilize the seedling. Starting the spring of the second year, provide a small handful of fertilizer distributed in a circle that approximates the outermost reach of the branches. Give a little more fertilizer each spring. Keep them well-watered. Nut trees need lots of water.

And here's the perfect source. I've used them, they're conscientious and honest and have unusually good stuff. But put in your order early (this year for delivery next spring), since they tend to run out of stock:

http://www.nolinnursery.com/
_________________
"Actually, humans died out long ago."
---Abused, abandoned hunting dog

"Things have entered a stage where the only change that is possible is for things to get worse."
---Me and my brother

heartandseoul · Tar Sands Joined: May 29, 2008 Posts: 31

Great Heineken, thanks - they're on my list!

Ludi · Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 9:08 am Post subject: Re: [Food] Production - Trees

Apple Tree Question:

Which form do you prefer for pruning apple trees, and why?

Central leader/pyramid shape?

Vase shape/ open center?

Any advice and personal experience welcome!
_________________
No original ideas are contained in this post.

skyemoor · Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 9:36 am Post subject: Re: [Food] Production - Trees

Dwarf? Semi-dwarf?

And by central leader, do you mean Modified Central Leader?

With dwarf, I like espalier, though it is a bit more work to establish.

With semi dwarf, I'm experimenting with both vase/open and central leader, though the latter is still a form of vase with the north side simply having a stronger, straighter, taller side trunk.

The open method is easier to prune (eventually) and harvest, in my opinion, as more of the foliage is out away from the center.
_________________
http://www.carfree.com
http://ecoplan.org/carshare/cs_index.htm
http://www.velomobile.de/GB/Advantages/advantages.html

Chance favors the prepared mind. -- Louis Pasteur

He that lives upon hope will die fasting. --Benjamin Franklin

Ludi · Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 10:02 am Post subject: Re: [Food] Production - Trees

Semi-dwarf, and I'm leaning toward the open center form. I have not shaped them yet, so need to be thinking about how I will prune them to form.
_________________
No original ideas are contained in this post.

Commanding_Heights · Heavy Crude Joined: Nov 09, 2006 Posts: 133

Ludi · Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 10:14 am Post subject: Re: [Food] Production - Trees

That's great to know, CH. I have William's Pride and Enterprise of those you mention (plus several more).
_________________
No original ideas are contained in this post.

Heineken · Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 8:35 pm Post subject: Re: [Food] Production - Trees

Hagakure_Leofman · Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 10:09 am Post subject: Re: [Food] Production - Trees

Well, it's late, but I've finished the first draft of my new orchard design.

I collected by bare rooted trees today (41 trees in total) and I've updated my blog with photos of the trees and the new orchard design.

Here is a small version of the new design (links to a larger version).

Cashmere · Light Sweet Crude Joined: Mar 27, 2008 Posts: 1971

Looks cool.

Linky no work.
_________________
Massive Human Dieoff must occur as a result of Peak Oil. Many more than half will die. It will occur everywhere, including where you live. If you fail to recognize this, then your odds of living move toward the "going to die" group.