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idiom
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 20, 2008 7:46 pm    Post subject: Re: 2008 Hurricane/Typhoon/Cyclone Season Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Not that it has any relevance, but hurricane fausto is having a grand old time out in the Pacific.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 20, 2008 8:26 pm    Post subject: Re: 2008 Hurricane/Typhoon/Cyclone Season Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

killJOY wrote:
Thanks for the vid, Peleg.

Perhaps everyone's lazy. A Sunday evening. Not up to doing a good job.


Are we talking individual over-entitled shoot for the least common denominator, pride oneself on knowing things that anyone of decent intelligence can learn in a few minutes lazy, or institutional paralysis lazy, or lack of understanding of how little one actually knows because the market in which we work is too small, or are we talking about not understanding how certain disciplines allow understanding of myriad others, there are alot of things we could be talking about. We could be talking abou couching one's extreme social views behind what appears to be a business while all the while covertly attacking populations of people who happen to disagree with our ideology, or we could be talking about the New World Order, the apocalypse, or nothing at all.

There are some things that all the humans on earth cannot defeat, or think their way out of. But we keep fighting don't we?

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 20, 2008 8:29 pm    Post subject: Re: 2008 Hurricane/Typhoon/Cyclone Season Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Heres a radar showing the gap between cuba and the yucatan, if the storm can squeeze through the gap we may see an eye open up soon.


Radar


And another storm for next week maybe?


A VIGOROUS AND WELL-DEFINED TROPICAL WAVE IS LOCATED OVER WESTERN
AFRICA A FEW HUNDRED MILES EAST OF DAKAR SENEGAL. THIS SYSTEM HAS
THE POTENTIAL TO BECOME A TROPICAL CYCLONE VERY QUICKLY AFTER IT
EMERGES INTO THE EASTERN ATLANTIC ON TUESDAY.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 20, 2008 8:35 pm    Post subject: Re: 2008 Hurricane/Typhoon/Cyclone Season Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Are you people tracking this storm? It looks like it might be heading straight for Louisiana.

NOAA link
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 20, 2008 8:36 pm    Post subject: Re: 2008 Hurricane/Typhoon/Cyclone Season Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

I'm no tropics expert but am a meteorologist. The center appears to have reformed north of previous. Eye appears to be forming east of Cozumel. Satellite presentation suggests some solid strengthening of the system tonight. This thing may just brush the Yucatan and continue gathering strength in the west GoMex. New model guidance has shifted west GoMex landfall further north and I would not be suprised if the track gets nudged even further north. Possible Texas landfall in 72 hours. People simply do not have much time to prepare. If I lived in the Brownsville to Corpus area I'd be getting my plywood now. Houston to Corpus should check in the morning to see if the track indeed has shifted north. Off shore oil and gas evacuation decisions will need to be made within 36 hours.

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 20, 2008 8:41 pm    Post subject: Re: 2008 Hurricane/Typhoon/Cyclone Season Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

f2tornado wrote:
I'm no tropics expert but am a meteorologist. The center appears to have reformed north of previous. Eye appears to be forming east of Cozumel. Satellite presentation suggests some solid strengthening of the system tonight. This thing may just brush the Yucatan and continue gathering strength in the west GoMex. New model guidance has shifted west GoMex landfall further north and I would not be suprised if the track gets nudged even further north. Possible Texas landfall in 72 hours. People simply do not have much time to prepare. If I lived in the Brownsville to Corpus area I'd be getting my plywood now. Houston to Corpus should check in the morning to see if the track indeed has shifted north. Off shore oil and gas evacuation decisions will need to be made within 36 hours.


Thanks for that knowledgeable and informative post, f2tornado. Cool

I wonder how many oil rigs will be taken out in the GOM if it hits Texas or Louisiana. This is not good news.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 20, 2008 8:43 pm    Post subject: Re: 2008 Hurricane/Typhoon/Cyclone Season Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

They have to be shutting everything in by now out in the Gulf.

Time to bug out.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 20, 2008 8:55 pm    Post subject: Re: 2008 Hurricane/Typhoon/Cyclone Season Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

no_name wrote:
Heres a radar showing the gap between cuba and the yucatan, if the storm can squeeze through the gap we may see an eye open up soon.


Radar


And another storm for next week maybe?


A VIGOROUS AND WELL-DEFINED TROPICAL WAVE IS LOCATED OVER WESTERN
AFRICA A FEW HUNDRED MILES EAST OF DAKAR SENEGAL. THIS SYSTEM HAS
THE POTENTIAL TO BECOME A TROPICAL CYCLONE VERY QUICKLY AFTER IT
EMERGES INTO THE EASTERN ATLANTIC ON TUESDAY.


Go over to wunderground.com and look and the Caribbean infrared loop. It's clear as day the whole thing is going NNW through the straight. Somebody could end up losing their job over this. If it does go off big and to the north NOAA is going to get toasted in the press and eventually in the Senate hearings that follow.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 20, 2008 9:01 pm    Post subject: Re: 2008 Hurricane/Typhoon/Cyclone Season Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Hogan wrote:
Are you people tracking this storm? It looks like it might be heading straight for Louisiana.

NOAA link


I'm literally flabbergasted and almost blushing that there is so little MSM coverage on TS Dolly and the thing looks to be heading much more NNW than any of the model runs predict. Anyone near to the official info-stream on this willing to add some insight?

MSNBC still does not have a story on TS Dolly. Sad

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3032128/


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 20, 2008 9:01 pm    Post subject: Re: 2008 Hurricane/Typhoon/Cyclone Season Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

I think so too. But if you look right away at the NOAA NHC website you can see the data is from 8 hours ago. They may be adjusting the trajectory with the next reports.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 20, 2008 9:03 pm    Post subject: Re: 2008 Hurricane/Typhoon/Cyclone Season Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Peleg wrote:
Hogan wrote:
Are you people tracking this storm? It looks like it might be heading straight for Louisiana.

NOAA link


I'm literally flabbergasted and almost blushing that there is so little MSM coverage on TS Dolly and the thing looks to be heading much more NNW than any of the model runs predict. Anyone near to the official info-stream on this willing to add some insight?


Check this thread---storm2k has a good few mets on it

http://www.storm2k.org/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=59&t=101807&st=0&sk=t&sd=a&start=4620
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 20, 2008 9:09 pm    Post subject: Re: 2008 Hurricane/Typhoon/Cyclone Season Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Let's not forget how many oil platforms are located off the coast of Louisiana:



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PostPosted: Sun Jul 20, 2008 9:19 pm    Post subject: Re: 2008 Hurricane/Typhoon/Cyclone Season Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Thanks no-name,

That looks like a nice forum. I'll visit there often. Someone earlier mentioned that NHC was not forecasting hurricane strength. Well now it is,

http://www.wunderground.com/tropical/tracking/at200804.html


The models are lagging the events in real time. Would any of you old salts be surprised if we don't see cat 2 coming into the forecast by tomorrow afternoon?

Unless there is something that is going to jog it back to the west later in the week, we are going to see 'Hello Dolly!' as a headline all over the place by tomorrow's evening news.

It is too bad these things are so destructive because it is one of the most amazing natural events.


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 20, 2008 9:21 pm    Post subject: Re: 2008 Hurricane/Typhoon/Cyclone Season Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Atleast for me it seems quite clear: MSM are downplaying it for today/tomorrow as to not stop the "oil plunge". Considering weather buffs at Storm2k are talking about a possible hit to Lousiana....

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 20, 2008 9:21 pm    Post subject: Re: 2008 Hurricane/Typhoon/Cyclone Season Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Now the NHC shows it most likely smashing into Brownsville as an 'H'. A bit more north than before.
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