Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 2:22 pm Post subject: Re: Confessions of a Grocery stocker .
vision-master wrote:
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My advice (though it wasn't solicited), is that if you're going to quit - actually quit. It's nicotine that you're addicted to - not smoking - what is just the means of delivery. If you realise this, you'll note that [u]switching to gum isn't quitting anything
Nope, I smoke a pipe and am not addicted at all. It's not the nicotine, it's the other crap they put in cigs. STOP lumping ALL smoking with cigs!
Nicotine is the addiction, not any additive to "cigs". Cigarette tobacco is designed to be as high in Nicotine as possible. Naturally grown tobacco has much less Nicotine. Additionally, if you don't inhale (most pipe and cigar smoking), you get much less Nicotine absorbtion.
But make no mistake. It's the Nicotine that makes it enjoyable, and it's the Nicotine that's addictive. This is true for all tobacco consumption. Nicotine is to tobacco as alcohol is to beer, in every way. Beer would have been an unknown, regional beverage if it didn't have that alcohol molecule.
On topic: great post and follow up. Please continue!
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Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 3:34 pm Post subject: Re: Confessions of a Grocery stocker .
I smoke hand-rolled cigars, the really good ones. I have smoked them for years, yet remain un-addicted. I usually go Monday through Friday without smoking any. Then Saturday and Sunday, may have one each day. Sometimes only one for the whole week, usually while out doing yard work.
I know the ones I smoke are usually rolled from double or triple fermented leaves. The fermentation process eliminates most of the nicotine, so if double or triple fermented, I would guess it is a really low number.
And I have absolutely no desire to quit. I smoke them in my leisure, knowing that when I light one, it'll take 90 minutes or more to finish. Goes great with a good book and a glass of fine liquor.
I'm so evil! _________________ "Better give me a lotta lumps, a whole lotta lumps!" Pete Puma, circa 1952
Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 4:57 pm Post subject: Re: Confessions of a Grocery stocker .
cbxer55 wrote:
I smoke hand-rolled cigars, the really good ones. I have smoked them for years, yet remain un-addicted. I usually go Monday through Friday without smoking any. Then Saturday and Sunday, may have one each day. Sometimes only one for the whole week, usually while out doing yard work. I know the ones I smoke are usually rolled from double or triple fermented leaves. The fermentation process eliminates most of the nicotine, so if double or triple fermented, I would guess it is a really low number. And I have absolutely no desire to quit. I smoke them in my leisure, knowing that when I light one, it'll take 90 minutes or more to finish. Goes great with a good book and a glass of fine liquor.
I'm so evil!
Yes, nicotine goes great with alcohol. All you are doing is taking in a low dose of nicotine over an extended period, which is the source of your smoking pleasure. I'm not entirely sure what your point is (every human loves the chemically induced 'buzz' from nicotine, alcohol, caffeine, etc.), and it's a complete derail from the thread.
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Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 5:56 pm Post subject: Re: Confessions of a Grocery stocker .
I'd be surprised if you could get addicted to normals cigarettes if you only had 1 or 2 a week. These things usually start when people think its cool, so they smoke everyday. Anyway its a bit off-topic.
Regarding supermarket supplies during collapse. I would expect to see luxury items go first. You know, expensive stuff from thousands of miles away that you never use. Then that would filter down to more and more food as delivery costs got more expensive and incomes/demand dropped. In the end I would expect most foods to be made at least nationally (somewhere within 1's country) and probably locally. Fresh produce like meat and veg, will be the most local of the lot due to shelf life. It will also be in-season food (ex. winter and summer fruits).
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Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 6:04 pm Post subject: Re: Confessions of a Grocery stocker .
s0cks wrote:
In the end I would expect most foods to be made at least nationally (somewhere within 1's country) and probably locally. Fresh produce like meat and veg, will be the most local of the lot due to shelf life. It will also be in-season food (ex. winter and summer fruits).
Many areas don't have local food production to speak of. _________________ "...powerdown so soft and fluffy you'll think you're living in a pillow..." - jboogy
Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 2:48 am Post subject: Re: Confessions of a Grocery stocker .
I live in a walkable neighborhood in the city.
In fact there's literally a grocery store within 5 minutes walking distance from where I live. So naturally I've developed some "city habits" like going to the grocery store once every 2 days and keeping a ridiculously low inventory supply of food on hand. If Armageddon happened tomorrow morning I'm only 5 days away from resorting to cannibalism.
I'm a firm believer in PO and the great die-off, but I never understood some of the people on this site who have a fixation for hoarding 1,000 lbs worth of food and keeping it in long term storage. To each his own I guess. ^_^
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Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 5:22 am Post subject: Re: Confessions of a Grocery stocker .
cube wrote:
I'm a firm believer in PO and the great die-off, but I never understood some of the people on this site who have a fixation for hoarding 1,000 lbs worth of food and keeping it in long term storage.
Ahh, but now you touched what it is to be human. Humanitarian gestures only go so far, and individualism and egotistic self-preservation precede it.
Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 10:48 am Post subject: Re: Confessions of a Grocery stocker .
VMarcHart wrote:
cube wrote:
I'm a firm believer in PO and the great die-off, but I never understood some of the people on this site who have a fixation for hoarding 1,000 lbs worth of food and keeping it in long term storage.
Ahh, but now you touched what it is to be human. Humanitarian gestures only go so far, and individualism and egotistic self-preservation precede it.
"Principles have little force, except when one is well-fed." ~Mark Twain _________________ "It means buckle your seatbelt, Dorothy, because Kansas? Is goin' bye-bye... "
Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 2:14 pm Post subject: Re: Confessions of a Grocery stocker .
Hi Mack,
Great post, keep up the good work, i found it rather interesting. Some thoughts on why sales were down for the fourth, perhaps less parties? Less people traveling to the lakes, less backyard barbeques, etc, because of the rise in gas? Personally, we did not have a family gathering and just went down the road to watch our town firework display. We may see alot of this during the holidays. People are traveling less, so grandma buys less food at the grocery store to feed the kids, etc. In our family we always overbuy too.
Also interesting in the trend on eating less meat. Do you think it is just fresh meat, or all meat in general? We are nearly vegetarian here, except we eat eggs, dairy and occasionally chicken, maybe a few times a month, so meat prices don't really have a big impact on us.
Also, I am curious if you are seeing a rise in couponing? I have started couponing in the past 6 months and since then i am finding good sale items w/coupons are frequently out of stock.
Where I live the largest grocery chain is locally owned and they tend to boast about getting a lot of produce/meat/dairy locally, but i still can find cheaper deals it seems at aldi's where the food comes from california and other places? What is up with that? I would think local food would be cheaper, but it doesn't always seem that way. Same with the farmers market, their prices seem rather high to me, so i don't buy there regularly as I have a budget to follow.
Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 4:07 pm Post subject: Re: Confessions of a Grocery stocker .
Hi MidwesternMom,
I am honored you enjoyed my post . Let me answer a couple of the questions that you brought up .
"Also interesting in the trend on eating less meat. Do you think it is just fresh meat, or all meat in general? "
In my little corner of south eastern tennessee , at my store and at the surrounding ones "I follow trends in food sales not only at my own store but the 3 nearest competitors as well ." I would have to say that the trend in meat is NOT that less money is being spent on meat .. insted its that the money spent on meat has been DRAMATICLY restructured on a wide scale by our consumers in a relitively short amount of time .
Sales of fresh meat have dropped by very wide margins , more than pretty much anyone i know has ever seen before .
While sales of canned meat products have jumped insanely ... forceing local stores includeing my own to take mesures to keep shelves from totaly emptying of canned meat items .
Examples of canned meat products are as follows "SPAM, canned chili, canned gravy, corned beef, ect ."
My store has trippled orders of SPAM "and its Great value brand equilivant" in the last 60 days just to keep shelves from becomeing empty of these now wildly popular products .
Also, I am curious if you are seeing a rise in couponing?
Somewhat of an increse yes .
I live in what would be called a poorer , rural area of the south . Not a lot of ritch folks around and the few we have that we consider ritch would prob be considered poverty stricken in a well to do area.
Some folks are cutting cupons but most just want to buy the Greatest possible amount of the cheepest possible alternitive to fill the need that they have .
IE "Wheres the cheepest Chili at sir ."
"Hey mack do you guys carry an off brand of condenced milk thats cheeper than this name brand ?"
I hear these kinds of questions from coustomers everyday on an increseing scale .
Anyway MidwesternMom I hope that i have shed some light on your questions !
It might not be textbook economics, but grocery store owner John Brunetti measures the health of the economy with a simple gauge — hot dogs versus hamburgers.
For years, the bakery of Brunetti’s Shur-Save on North Main Avenue sold more than twice as many hamburger buns as hot dog buns, Mr. Brunetti said. Now, they are even.
The implication, he said, is that consumers are distressed and buying more of the cheaper hot dogs and less of the more-expensive ground beef hamburgers.
The shift started around Memorial Day, Mr. Brunetti said, and “blew us out of the water.”
“We always knew what to do,” Mr. Brunetti said. “And now we’re getting fooled.”
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Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 8:53 pm Post subject: Re: Confessions of a Grocery stocker .
Latest update from my supermarket:
Edy's ice cream container is now only 1.5 quarts! It used to be 1/2 gallon, then 1.75 quarts, and now this. I'd love to tell the clowns running Edy's what they can do with their quart-and-a-half containers.
Most other brands are 1.75 quarts. The half-gallon container of ice cream, as we knew it, is gone forever. One of life's simplest pleasures has been downsized by corporate greed.
Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 10:04 pm Post subject: Re: Confessions of a Grocery stocker .
JoeW wrote:
Latest update from my supermarket:
Edy's ice cream container is now only 1.5 quarts! It used to be 1/2 gallon, then 1.75 quarts, and now this. I'd love to tell the clowns running Edy's what they can do with their quart-and-a-half containers.
Most other brands are 1.75 quarts. The half-gallon container of ice cream, as we knew it, is gone forever. One of life's simplest pleasures has been downsized by corporate greed.
Byrers has done the same thing. Also Cheese-itz...down to 13.5 from a pound.
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