How then, do we move backwards? How does a society, with most of the people having no clue of future events, move from being dependent on a vast and intertwined network of goods and services produced by the indigenous people of whereever, to a local resource and renewable energy based society, and do so in the timeframe available (20-30 years using the most liberal extimates, 10-20 with resonable estimates, 5-10 with worst case scenarios), all the while prices on everything increasing, world politics getting more militaristic, governments continuously reducing civil liberties, shortages of goods on the market and weather patterns resembling bad Hollywood movies?
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Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 11:35 am Post subject: Re: Asperger's Syndrome
mos6507 wrote:
You're one of the most level-headed people here, at least you write that way.
Thanks, but I freak out on here on a regular basis - you must have just missed those posts!
I think I've been very lucky in getting good treatment from doctors and reasonable help from medications. I actually don't have a psychiatrist currently - my GP took over that job, as she has several bipolar patients. _________________ "...powerdown so soft and fluffy you'll think you're living in a pillow..." - jboogy
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Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 11:39 am Post subject: Re: Asperger's Syndrome
Tyler_JC wrote:
[And I think I'm going to see a therapist in the fall, just to go over a few things. My friends are getting tired of playing therapist on AOL instant messanger.]
I'm glad. Just remember a therapist isn't (usually) a physician, and (usually) not qualified to diagnose or treat neurochemical disorders, though various kinds of therapy can help some people a lot. _________________ "...powerdown so soft and fluffy you'll think you're living in a pillow..." - jboogy
I just repeat to myself "Tack is for people who are not witty enough for sarcasim." And then realize that 90% of the people I encounter are idiots. So speak slowly and try really really hard not to be sarcastic, Cuz I get tired of expaining myself over and over again. It works for me at least!
They just never learned to lie compulsively and put on an act. From my experience that's the only way to get along with people. At a party and can't think of anything to say? Just make up an interesting yet believable story or talk about bs that you could care less about like pro sports. Or rip off a funny joke from an obscure comedian so no one will know that you stole it and all of a sudden you become "funny". I see the "popular" people do it all the time.
Bottom line: If you want to get along with people, never under any circumstances be yourself. People never like you for who you really are, they just like the "phony" you, the act that you put on to impress people.
Parents who tell their children to "be themselves" are just setting them up for social failure.
No frickin' way, man. You gotta be yourself, otherwise what's the point in being "you"?
I totally suck at lying, so I just say what comes to mind, or more often, start by asking questions. I know at least a little about a lot of things, so it's not that hard. I do have a sense of humor, but it's rather subtle, so people have to "work" at getting it...hehe. Since I am heard of hearing, noisy social gatherings can be difficult, but when I get a chance to talk face-to-face with someone, it usually results in a good outcome, whatever the topic may be.
By the way, I do tend to be friends with people that have Asperger's...to me, it's just a matter of "honing in" on their interests, as well as not being insulted by the lack of eye contact, long silences, etc. All that stuff is highly overrated anyhow, IMO. As for people that make stuff up, it won't go very far with me. While these people can be a lot of fun, it's rather disconcerting to see someone "putting on an act"...to me, it's very obvious when they do that.
Dunno, maybe I'm an oddball...LOL. _________________ Nowhere to run, nowhere to hide...
Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2008 12:22 am Post subject: Re: Asperger's Syndrome
Byron100 wrote:
hubbertspeak7777777 wrote:
They just never learned to lie compulsively and put on an act. From my experience that's the only way to get along with people. At a party and can't think of anything to say? Just make up an interesting yet believable story or talk about bs that you could care less about like pro sports. Or rip off a funny joke from an obscure comedian so no one will know that you stole it and all of a sudden you become "funny". I see the "popular" people do it all the time.
Bottom line: If you want to get along with people, never under any circumstances be yourself. People never like you for who you really are, they just like the "phony" you, the act that you put on to impress people.
Parents who tell their children to "be themselves" are just setting them up for social failure.
No frickin' way, man. You gotta be yourself, otherwise what's the point in being "you"?
I totally suck at lying, so I just say what comes to mind, or more often, start by asking questions. I know at least a little about a lot of things, so it's not that hard. I do have a sense of humor, but it's rather subtle, so people have to "work" at getting it...hehe. Since I am heard of hearing, noisy social gatherings can be difficult, but when I get a chance to talk face-to-face with someone, it usually results in a good outcome, whatever the topic may be.
By the way, I do tend to be friends with people that have Asperger's...to me, it's just a matter of "honing in" on their interests, as well as not being insulted by the lack of eye contact, long silences, etc. All that stuff is highly overrated anyhow, IMO. As for people that make stuff up, it won't go very far with me. While these people can be a lot of fun, it's rather disconcerting to see someone "putting on an act"...to me, it's very obvious when they do that.
Dunno, maybe I'm an oddball...LOL.
Maybe you're an exception to the rule, because most people are bullshitters. Or maybe you don't realize you're doing it. I think a lot of people do it sub-consciously. They learned to do it at a young age and it's become a habit. A habit that makes social success a lot easier.
Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2008 1:16 am Post subject: Re: Asperger's Syndrome
treetpflyer wrote:
I just repeat to myself "Tack is for people who are not witty enough for sarcasim." And then realize that 90% of the people I encounter are idiots. So speak slowly and try really really hard not to be sarcastic, Cuz I get tired of expaining myself over and over again. It works for me at least!
Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 1:24 am Post subject: Re: Asperger's Syndrome
hubbertspeak7777777 wrote:
Byron100 wrote:
hubbertspeak7777777 wrote:
(...)
No frickin' way, man. You gotta be yourself, otherwise what's the point in being "you"?
I totally suck at lying, so I just say what comes to mind, or more often, start by asking questions. I know at least a little about a lot of things, so it's not that hard. I do have a sense of humor, but it's rather subtle, so people have to "work" at getting it...hehe. Since I am heard of hearing, noisy social gatherings can be difficult, but when I get a chance to talk face-to-face with someone, it usually results in a good outcome, whatever the topic may be.
By the way, I do tend to be friends with people that have Asperger's...to me, it's just a matter of "honing in" on their interests, as well as not being insulted by the lack of eye contact, long silences, etc. All that stuff is highly overrated anyhow, IMO. As for people that make stuff up, it won't go very far with me. While these people can be a lot of fun, it's rather disconcerting to see someone "putting on an act"...to me, it's very obvious when they do that.
Dunno, maybe I'm an oddball...LOL.
Maybe you're an exception to the rule, because most people are bullshitters. Or maybe you don't realize you're doing it. I think a lot of people do it sub-consciously. They learned to do it at a young age and it's become a habit. A habit that makes social success a lot easier.
Then I'm another exception. Never learned how to lie, and was never a fan nor practioner of bullshitering. It's too obvious and pathetic. Actualy, with social interactions what was tougher was to realise that yes, most people (including me in the past) are so ignorant and misguided. It shouldn't be that way, but it is. Human's world is crap, it's a reality. It can change, but it hasn't changed yet. _________________ anagami.net
Posted: Sun Aug 03, 2008 10:18 pm Post subject: Re: Asperger's Syndrome
hubbertspeak7777777 wrote:
Then I'm another exception. Never learned how to lie, and was never a fan nor practioner of bullshitering. It's too obvious and pathetic. Actualy, with social interactions what was tougher was to realise that yes, most people (including me in the past) are so ignorant and misguided. It shouldn't be that way, but it is. Human's world is crap, it's a reality. It can change, but it hasn't changed yet.
Same here. Count me in. I agree with all you said, I agree
However, we are who are are. We create the computers and software now running our civilization and we create the computers that will be running and guiding missiles in the next war. I am reminded of the movie "War Games". The kid had to teach tic-tac-toe to the computer. No one wins. The computer didnt get it (couldnt see the big picture, just wanted to play the specific game and win). We are the same way, our civilization, all of us. Cant see the big picture. We just want to win.
The most important thing is not who you are (lacking socially in some way?) but can you see the big picture? People are way too connected emotionally to our world. In a sense the emotions prevent them from detaching from their emotions which is needed to look at things from differing (emotional) perspectives. I dont even need emotions to look and analyze but they are helpful. Its beautiful to see things. Its tough to look out and see our world, the state its in. I encourage everyone to listen to good music, to enjoy life while its here...
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