Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2008 8:36 pm Post subject: Hynix closing facility in Eugene, Oregon...
My neighbor just found out her job at Hynix was ending.....or... the paper leaked the info before the employees got any calls from their supervisors. 1,113 people will be out of work. link
catbox _________________ President Bush: “There’s no question about it. Wall Street got drunk—that’s one of the reasons I asked you to turn off the TV cameras. It got drunk, and now it’s got a hangover."
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Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2008 10:45 pm Post subject: Re: Hynix closing facility in Eugene, Oregon...
All that pain over the wetlands, all the high hopes for economic growth after the logging industry collapsed, all the talk of a new economy, and all we get is 10 measly years of production? What a shame!
Our lovely state remains a Second World Country. We're Bulgaria, but without the rich culture.
Joined: Apr 06, 2006 Posts: 3372 Location: 3 miles NW of Champoeg, Republic of Cascadia
Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2008 11:47 pm Post subject: Re: Hynix closing facility in Eugene, Oregon...
4.5 million in property taxes, Eugene's largest tax payer. Looks like it's mostly going to impact education.
DeFazio's trying to salvage that Coos County rail line, which is thinking ahead. Unfortunately listening to him on the radio he's in the use-it-or-lose-it camp of Big Oil Screwing Us Over. _________________ Cogito, ergo non satis bibivi
I will not abide another toe.
Joined: May 06, 2006 Posts: 873 Location: Tustin, CA
Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2008 12:08 am Post subject: Re: Hynix closing facility in Eugene, Oregon...
Another scum bag Benedict Arnold company. Don’t worry, anybody who speaks English as their first language will be unable to understand the people in Bangladesh they are hiring to take their place. They get hung up on all the time! (Believe me I work for AT&T).
You want to screw America? We'll screw you Corporate whatever and hope you die a horrible cancer death! (I really mean that to Michael Milliken type traitors!). If there is a God hope his ugly bald ass dies that way too! _________________ Skeptical scrutiny in both Science and Religion is the means by which deep thoughts are winnowed from deep nonsense-Carl Sagan
Joined: Oct 18, 2004 Posts: 1926 Location: kiwibush
Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2008 4:55 am Post subject: Re: Hynix closing facility in Eugene, Oregon...
SILENTTODD wrote:
Another scum bag Benedict Arnold company. Don’t worry, anybody who speaks English as their first language will be unable to understand the people in Bangladesh they are hiring to take their place. They get hung up on all the time! (Believe me I work for AT&T).
You want to screw America? We'll screw you Corporate whatever and hope you die a horrible cancer death! (I really mean that to Michael Milliken type traitors!). If there is a God hope his ugly bald ass dies that way too!
Had you been an investor of any significance in the company, I'm sure you would be whistling a different tune. Companies are not charitable institutions established for the benefit of workers or the local populace. They are there to serve their investors alone. _________________ Bugger me, I hear oil's runnin out mate!
Joined: Sep 08, 2005 Posts: 750 Location: Atlanta, GA
Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2008 5:41 am Post subject: Re: Hynix closing facility in Eugene, Oregon...
americandream wrote:
SILENTTODD wrote:
Another scum bag Benedict Arnold company. Don’t worry, anybody who speaks English as their first language will be unable to understand the people in Bangladesh they are hiring to take their place. They get hung up on all the time! (Believe me I work for AT&T).
You want to screw America? We'll screw you Corporate whatever and hope you die a horrible cancer death! (I really mean that to Michael Milliken type traitors!). If there is a God hope his ugly bald ass dies that way too!
Had you been an investor of any significance in the company, I'm sure you would be whistling a different tune. Companies are not charitable institutions established for the benefit of workers or the local populace. They are there to serve their investors alone.
And why should it be that way? Imagine if we did things a bit differently, and all corporate-type entities existed solely for the public good, with the "investors" being the people that it serves. Wow, what a novel concept!
But no, we humans are still have the mindset of cavemen with clubs. We still have a long ways to go yet. Or maybe not. Perhaps Peak Oil is the club that finally knocks some sense into the collective human psyche.
Bring on the New Depression. I'm ready and waiting... _________________ Nowhere to run, nowhere to hide...
...and the meek shall inherit the Earth!
Joined: Aug 11, 2005 Posts: 722 Location: Eastern NC
Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2008 6:07 am Post subject: Re: Hynix closing facility in Eugene, Oregon...
What a bunch of utopian dreamer! Byron, you had me rolling on the floors. I think "all corporate-type entities existed solely for the public good" was tried, it was called the Soviet Union, didn't turn out so good. Of course americandream thinks that model works, but lives in a non communist country, using a computer developed by those terrible corporations serving their investors.
Joined: Sep 16, 2004 Posts: 4446 Location: Southwest WI
Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2008 8:34 am Post subject: Re: Hynix closing facility in Eugene, Oregon...
No US government bailout? Maybe they should go to Washington and stop at the Federal Reserve and ask for a few billion... _________________ "Oil is going up because we use too much oil, and the capacity to replace reserves is dwindling"
-President Bush 11/07/07
Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2008 9:55 am Post subject: Re: Hynix closing facility in Eugene, Oregon...
Gotta be more to it than just a technology shift. It can't be THAT hard to retool for bigger wafers. Certainly easier than moving to a new place, building a new facility, hiring new people, etc. _________________ "So while you sit and whistle Dixie with your money and your power.
I can hear the flowers a-growin in the rubble of the towers.
I hear leaders quit their lying
I hear babies quit their crying.
I hear soldiers quit their dying, one and all." - OCMS
Joined: Apr 17, 2005 Posts: 2722 Location: Vancouver Island
Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2008 12:11 pm Post subject: Re: Hynix closing facility in Eugene, Oregon...
Do they produce the silicon wafers or do they take wafers and turn them into chips?
If they make wafers 8" pure wafers are more then large enough for solar...
Yes it's a nontrivial retooling but a bunch of what you need already exists in the plant. _________________ shame on us, doomed from the start
god have mercy on our dirty little hearts
Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2008 5:05 pm Post subject: Re: Hynix closing facility in Eugene, Oregon...
My father installed a lot of machinery at this place when it was built.
His quote: "Semiconductor plants do not age well"
The average useful life of a new wafer fab is something like five years. The infrastructure of an existing plant will not support new process designs, so it's usually cheaper to build new plants.
From my experience, if the construction activity at a semiconductor fab ever stops, it's doomed. Seen it at Philips, Intel, DEC, Siemens, and Sumitomo.
I've been to a couple of new solar cell plants lately. The new processes that I've seen are radically different from wafer fabs. Not that PV modules couldn't be made at an old wafer fab, but the process is a world apart.
Joined: Mar 09, 2007 Posts: 223 Location: No. Calif.
Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2008 6:07 pm Post subject: Re: Hynix closing facility in Eugene, Oregon...
americandream wrote:
SILENTTODD wrote:
Another scum bag Benedict Arnold company. Don’t worry, anybody who speaks English as their first language will be unable to understand the people in Bangladesh they are hiring to take their place. They get hung up on all the time! (Believe me I work for AT&T).
You want to screw America? We'll screw you Corporate whatever and hope you die a horrible cancer death! (I really mean that to Michael Milliken type traitors!). If there is a God hope his ugly bald ass dies that way too!
Had you been an investor of any significance in the company, I'm sure you would be whistling a different tune. Companies are not charitable institutions established for the benefit of workers or the local populace. They are there to serve their investors alone.
That may be true, but that is unfortunate. Even as an investor, I would like to know that the company is playing fairly and is respectful of communities in which it operates.
Historically, corporations were given special rights as long as they were deemed assets to the state. The pendulum has swung far in the favor of corporations over even individual states and populations. That is part of the peak oil connundum, that our economic model is based upon maximum exploitation (and depletion) of natural resources.
Joined: May 06, 2006 Posts: 873 Location: Tustin, CA
Posted: Sat Aug 02, 2008 2:25 am Post subject: Re: Hynix closing facility in Eugene, Oregon...
americandream wrote:
Had you been an investor of any significance in the company, I'm sure you would be whistling a different tune. Companies are not charitable institutions established for the benefit of workers or the local populace. They are there to serve their investors alone..
americandream, don’t make gag with hysteria! Were you born yesterday?
You can’t possibly believe what you stated and ever read the WSJ or the business section of any major newspaper.
Corporations are NOT run “to serve their investors alone”. They are run to produce the maximum return possible( given political conditions) For their Governing Board of Directors. For them, and them alone! Who, I would, agree don’t give a crap about “the workers or the local populace”.
In America, we need to change that. _________________ Skeptical scrutiny in both Science and Religion is the means by which deep thoughts are winnowed from deep nonsense-Carl Sagan
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