Joined: May 26, 2004 Posts: 1190 Location: Zoorope
Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2008 4:37 am Post subject: Re: Confessions of a Grocery stocker .
A question from a dumb European:
are they shrinking boxes but leaving the price as it is????
This is illegal here. You must write the price per kilo by law. So people can do the math instantly. Shrinking boxes of 10 or 20% is illegal. _________________ **no english mothertongue**
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Joined: Sep 08, 2005 Posts: 750 Location: Atlanta, GA
Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2008 5:02 am Post subject: Re: Confessions of a Grocery stocker .
Barbara wrote:
A question from a dumb European:
are they shrinking boxes but leaving the price as it is????
This is illegal here. You must write the price per kilo by law. So people can do the math instantly. Shrinking boxes of 10 or 20% is illegal.
I wish they'd do that here too...
Nothing makes me more angry than the feeling of being ripped off by paying more for less. At the very least, can't they be upfront and just raise prices and keep the same size? This "shrinkage" thing is just plain nasty, it really is. Kinda like the scam B & D pulled a few years back with their "Versa" (sp?) line of tools with those rechargeable batteries. I fell for this scam by buying a lot of these "wonderful" tools, only to find that the rechargeable batteries became useless after only a few dozen recharges, and when I went to get replacement ones, they were horribly, outrageously expensive. Boy, I was steamed...how sneaky of them to pull this sh*t...ugh! Never again will I buy a B & D product again (all those tools have long since been tossed in the garbage).
I urge all of you that are confronted with smaller ice cream containers and Incredible Shrinking Cereal boxes....don't buy it! Just get something else, or do without. _________________ Nowhere to run, nowhere to hide...
...and the meek shall inherit the Earth!
Joined: Aug 24, 2005 Posts: 338 Location: Costa Geriatrica, Spain
Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2008 5:18 am Post subject: Re: Confessions of a Grocery stocker .
Barbara wrote:
A question from a dumb European:
are they shrinking boxes but leaving the price as it is????
This is illegal here. You must write the price per kilo by law. So people can do the math instantly. Shrinking boxes of 10 or 20% is illegal.
No, its not illegal, but as you say the price per kilo, liter, etc has to be displayed. on the racks price ticket.
A few months ago Mercadonna (large Spanish supermarket chain) redesigned all their jam jars. New trendier design, which looks the same size as the old jar, but which is slightly smaller in content. During one week both jars were being stocked next to each other! same ticket price - but on the small print you could clearly see the higher price per kilo on the rack ticket under the new jars. Needless to say, the old jars sold out really fast!
Doesn't seem to be too widespread though. Large size Cornflakes still come in a 500gram pack... Juice still comes in 1 liter cartons, though my favourite, fresh pressed muscatel grape juice from the chiller cabinet, has gone up in price from €1.00 to €1.38 per liter in the last year and a half
Joined: Aug 24, 2005 Posts: 338 Location: Costa Geriatrica, Spain
Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2008 5:39 am Post subject: Re: Confessions of a Grocery stocker .
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Joined: May 26, 2008 Posts: 898 Location: Chicago, IL
Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2008 5:51 am Post subject: Re: Confessions of a Grocery stocker .
Barbara wrote:
Why are they shrinking boxes but leaving the price as it is? This is illegal here. You must write the price per kilo by law. So people can do the math instantly. Shrinking boxes of 10 or 20% is illegal.
Whereas US grocery shops do show prices per unit, weigh, volume, etc, there is no law here, or in Europe for that matter, against the manufactureur decreasing the size of the package, or increasing the price. You can pack a can of 100g of tuna for 5 Euros, or the 80g can for the same price. Just don't put the 2 side-by-side, because you wouldn't look too smart.
Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2008 7:32 am Post subject: Re: Confessions of a Grocery stocker .
work in produce department.
angry customers daily; get cussed out weekly.
yesterday customer wants to know why our produce is always wilted; why our grocery store doesn't use refrigerated trucks.
rants for a while, then i tell her to go somewhere where she'll be happy to shop.
customer gets manager; I have to apologize for being rude.
manager says don't mention gas prices, oil prices, grocery prices; stress how cheap our store is and how much money we are saving them. (?)
(potatoes 2.99 to 7.99 for eight pound bag) coconut milk (which we use a lot of) 2.19 a can, same .70 a can in Austin.
let the lying/deception begin. (although guess we've been doing it for awhile)
Joined: May 26, 2008 Posts: 898 Location: Chicago, IL
Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2008 7:38 am Post subject: Re: Confessions of a Grocery stocker .
JJ wrote:
...customer gets manager; I have to apologize for being rude. manager says don't mention gas prices, oil prices, grocery prices; stress how cheap our store is and how much money we are saving them. (?)
JJ, "Dr Phil" here, keep your job. It's going to be harder and harder from now on to find a new one.
Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2008 11:29 am Post subject: Re: Confessions of a Grocery stocker .
You know when it comes down to it, these sorts of manipulations aren't a new thing. Reducing packaged weight has been a standard method of passing on price increases for years. Someone posted a pic upthread of the Breyer's ice cream containers going from 1.75 down to 1.5 quarts. Maybe they've forgotten that it used to be a half gallon?
Another similar tactic relates to the nutritional content labeling. When concerns arise over, for example, the sodium content of an item, the manufacturer might reduce the 'Serving Size' listed on the label, thus giving the illusion that the product has less sodium. I mean, who considers one of those little bags of chips you frequently find next to the register to be two servings, for example?
There's a whole lot of psychology that goes into packaging, presentation, arrangement and placement of products in a grocery store. Ever notice for example how when there's a large selection of a particular type of product, that the lower cost items are usually on the bottom or top shelves, while the premium brands are at eye level? Or that the most essential items --typically milk, butter and eggs-- are nearly always the furthest possible distance fr0m the entrance?
Also, more 'basic', or staple non-fresh items (canned and jarred goods) tend to be placed in narrow aisles to discourage both time spent comparing prices and bending for the cheaper stuff on the bottom shelves because of the claustrophobic feeling, while the less essential items (chips, soda, etc.) are in wide aisles, encouraging you to relax and spend more time there.
Lots of other 'tricks' too, but you get the idea... _________________ "It means buckle your seatbelt, Dorothy, because Kansas? Is goin' bye-bye... "
Joined: Nov 24, 2007 Posts: 117 Location: Christchurch, New Zealand
Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2008 2:23 pm Post subject: Re: Confessions of a Grocery stocker .
Byron100 wrote:
Nothing makes me more angry than the feeling of being ripped off by paying more for less. At the very least, can't they be upfront and just raise prices and keep the same size?
Really it's in their best interests to shrink things, rather than raise the price.
By shrinking it they can save on shipping costs due to smaller weight/size, as well as reducing the most expensive component (the food) per item sold, so if the price of the food goes up in the future the price per item doesn't have to increase as much to compensate for it as it previously would have.
Joined: Sep 03, 2007 Posts: 620 Location: Sunny Virginia, USA
Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2008 2:58 pm Post subject: Re: Confessions of a Grocery stocker .
VMarcHart wrote:
Barbara wrote:
Why are they shrinking boxes but leaving the price as it is? This is illegal here. You must write the price per kilo by law. So people can do the math instantly. Shrinking boxes of 10 or 20% is illegal.
Whereas US grocery shops do show prices per unit, weigh, volume, etc, there is no law here, or in Europe for that matter, against the manufactureur decreasing the size of the package, or increasing the price. You can pack a can of 100g of tuna for 5 Euros, or the 80g can for the same price. Just don't put the 2 side-by-side, because you wouldn't look too smart.
Plus there is no law saying the units have to be consistent. I yank out the calculator when I see one size jar listed as cents/oz and the next larger listed as dollars per quart. My favorite is toilet paper list as cents/100 sheets and the next brand listed as dollars per roll. _________________ When somebody makes a statement you don't understand, don't tell him he's crazy. Ask him what he means. -- Otto Harkaman, Space Viking
Posted: Sat Jul 26, 2008 7:39 am Post subject: Re: Confessions of a Grocery stocker .
Gothor wrote:
JJ wrote:
killJOY wrote:
Why the hell can't you get lemon juice anymore?
It seems always to be OS.
we can't get bag lemons in produce anymore...
Jeez hate to bump this but couldn't get past being pissed off with this situation. I live in Florida, plenty of lemons in the stores but they cost 3/1.99! I mean JC, WTF, OMG. But seriously, I'm planting trees as soon as someone has a sale as they (ones that will produce before I bit the dust), the trees, are quite expensive.
Yeah what's up with that? I normally can get lemons 3/1.00 in kansas on sale, and i don't think they have many lemons trees around here. It just disturbs me that I can get it cheaper than people who live near the food source, shouldn't locals get it for cheaper? I know cost of living is a factor, but still. I would hate to give up a lot of transported food, particularly tropical food etc., but i would really like to see lower prices for local food, and higher prices for shipped/non local food. Well I have seen it with imported rice, and flour but that's about it so far.
Posted: Sat Jul 26, 2008 8:13 am Post subject: Re: Confessions of a Grocery stocker .
MidwesternMom wrote:
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Yeah what's up with that? I normally can get lemons 3/1.00 in kansas on sale, and i don't think they have many lemons trees around here. It just disturbs me that I can get it cheaper than people who live near the food source, shouldn't locals get it for cheaper?
No.
That's not how things work today in today's globalized economy.
Economies of scale affects food prices more so than distance of transport. For example why is papaya fruit expensive in the USA?
Most people would say, "geez that's a dumb question. because it's a tropical fruit and has to be shipped in from far distances."
okay 2nd Q:
Why are bananas so cheap?
Is there some logical explanation to this or do we just live in a mad world? The answer is simple--->bulk purchase.
Americans don't eat that much papaya so it's bought in small quantities therefore it's expensive.
If something was bought in large bulk then it's cost would be ridiculously cheap. Something produced 5,000 miles away can be cheaper if bought in large bulk then something produced only 50 miles away.
In New York City you can buy Hawaii pineapples, sugar, and coconut for cheaper then if you went to Hawaii.
That may sound a bit messed up (if you live in Hawaii) but that's the way the world works.
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