Like the illusion of Wall Street, with its vast and powerful investment banks, now shuttered, China too is an illusion perpetuated by the Globalists that gave us the 15,000 mile Caesar salad, poisoned cat food and lead based paint on babies' pacifiers. Like the illusion that money would come from thin air to always push housing prices higher, China has spent a generation pursuing its illusion. Pursuing an unattainable dream to be like the West, while 6000 years of its carefully shepherded top soil blows into the sea.
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Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 6:39 pm Post subject: Re: Global Warming News links
Global Warming: Top 10, Again
WASHINGTON (AP) — Earth scored another Top 10 finish in June — climate wise.
It was the eighth warmest June on record, the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration reported Wednesday.
And the first six months of the year were the ninth warmest since record keeping began in 1880, NOAA's National Climatic Data Center reported.
The planets average temperature for June was 60.8 degrees Fahrenheit, 0.9 degrees warmer than average for the month.
For the January to June period, the combined global land and ocean surface temperature was 57.1 degrees, which is 0.8 degrees above the 20th century mean.
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Climate analysis: link _________________ The things that will destroy America are prosperity-at-any-price, peace-at-any-price, safety-first instead of duty-first, the love of soft living, and the get-rich-quick theory of life.
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Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 1:07 am Post subject: Re: Global Warming News links
Adding Lime To Seawater May Cut Carbon Dioxide Levels Back To Pre-industrial Levels
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Scientists say they have found a workable way of reducing carbon dioxide levels in the atmosphere by adding lime to seawater. And they think it has the potential to dramatically reverse CO2 accumulation in the atmosphere, reports Cath O'Driscoll in SCI's Chemistry & Industry magazine.
Shell is so impressed with the new approach that it is funding an investigation into its economic feasibility. 'We think it's a promising idea,' says Shell's Gilles Bertherin, a coordinator on the project. 'There are potentially huge environmental benefits from addressing climate change -- and adding calcium hydroxide to seawater will also mitigate the effects of ocean acidification, so it should have a positive impact on the marine environment.'
sciencedaily _________________ Human history becomes more and more a race between education and catastrophe. H. G. Wells.
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Joined: Apr 28, 2005 Posts: 3920 Location: West shore Lake Eire, MI, USA
Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 2:21 am Post subject: Re: Global Warming News links
Graeme wrote:
Adding Lime To Seawater May Cut Carbon Dioxide Levels Back To Pre-industrial Levels
Quote:
Scientists say they have found a workable way of reducing carbon dioxide levels in the atmosphere by adding lime to seawater. And they think it has the potential to dramatically reverse CO2 accumulation in the atmosphere, reports Cath O'Driscoll in SCI's Chemistry & Industry magazine.
Shell is so impressed with the new approach that it is funding an investigation into its economic feasibility. 'We think it's a promising idea,' says Shell's Gilles Bertherin, a coordinator on the project. 'There are potentially huge environmental benefits from addressing climate change -- and adding calcium hydroxide to seawater will also mitigate the effects of ocean acidification, so it should have a positive impact on the marine environment.'
Oh fer crying out loud! You make lime by heating limestone to drive off the CO2! Unless you sequester that CO2, which takes energy, all you are doing is dumping CO2 in the air and removing it from the water! Net gain zero! _________________ Always appeal to a man's enlightened self interest, you can trust him to look out for himself honestly, It's when you appeal to his Honor or the Common Good that he stops paying attention.
Joined: Mar 04, 2005 Posts: 2768 Location: New Zealand
Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 3:07 am Post subject: Re: Global Warming News links
Tanada, Your criticism is mentioned in the article.
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Kruger says: 'There are many such places -- for example, Australia's Nullarbor Plain would be a prime location for this process, as it has 10 000km3 of limestone and soaks up roughly 20MJ/m2 of solar irradiation every day.'
The process of making lime generates CO2, but adding the lime to seawater absorbs almost twice as much CO2. The overall process is therefore 'carbon negative'.
'This process has the potential to reverse the accumulation of CO2 in the atmosphere. It would be possible to reduce CO2 to pre-industrial levels,' Kruger says.
However, I do acknowledge that this is still a work-in-progress. If you have any solutions, then you could contribute to http://www.cquestrate.com mentioned at the end of the article. _________________ Human history becomes more and more a race between education and catastrophe. H. G. Wells.
Fatih Birol's motto: leave oil before it leaves us.
Joined: Apr 12, 2007 Posts: 1198 Location: Central NC
Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 7:00 am Post subject: Re: Global Warming News links
Hey Tanada! Where ya been? _________________ "The era of procrastination, of half-measures, of soothing and baffling expedients, of delays, is coming to a close. In its place we are entering a period of consequences…"
Sir Winston Churchill
Joined: Apr 28, 2005 Posts: 3920 Location: West shore Lake Eire, MI, USA
Posted: Sat Jul 26, 2008 12:19 pm Post subject: Re: Global Warming News links
Homesteader wrote:
Hey Tanada! Where ya been?
I was busy getting divorced and doing escapist things to block out the real world. Thanx for noticing my absence _________________ Always appeal to a man's enlightened self interest, you can trust him to look out for himself honestly, It's when you appeal to his Honor or the Common Good that he stops paying attention.
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Posted: Sun Aug 31, 2008 5:23 pm Post subject: Re: Global Warming News links
Arctic becomes an island as ice melts
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The North Pole has become an island for the first time in human history as climate change has made it possible to circumnavigate the Arctic ice cap.
The historic development was revealed by satellite images taken last week showing that both the north-west and north-east passages have been opened by melting ice.
Prof Mark Serreze, a sea ice specialist at the National Snow and Ice Data Centre (NSIDC) in the US said the images suggested the Arctic may have entered a "death spiral" caused by global warming. "The rate of change is clearly faster than nearly all the models predict, which has huge implications for climate change and how to tackle it."
Meanwhile Prof James Lovelock, of the University of Oxford, has claimed "planet-scale engineering of the climate" may have to be attempted to counter global warming.
telegraph _________________ Human history becomes more and more a race between education and catastrophe. H. G. Wells.
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Joined: Apr 28, 2005 Posts: 3920 Location: West shore Lake Eire, MI, USA
Posted: Sun Aug 31, 2008 6:42 pm Post subject: Re: Global Warming News links
The last thing in the world we need is for Humanity, which can't even accurately predict Polar climate change from year to year, attempting geoengineering on the scale you would need to have a real impact.
Lovelock needs to bite his tongue right off for even suggesing it. We got ourselves into this situation with our arrogance, and arrogance is the last thing we need to excercise if we are to survive. _________________ Always appeal to a man's enlightened self interest, you can trust him to look out for himself honestly, It's when you appeal to his Honor or the Common Good that he stops paying attention.
Posted: Sun Aug 31, 2008 8:33 pm Post subject: Re: Global Warming News links
Yeah, elsewhere I've seen Lovelock equating humans micromanaging the climate to goats tending to a garden. I don't know what's getting into him here, but this stuff is driving lots of people a bit nuts.
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Posted: Mon Sep 01, 2008 12:16 am Post subject: Re: Global Warming News links
dohboi wrote:
Yeah, elsewhere I've seen Lovelock equating humans micromanaging the climate to goats tending to a garden. I don't know what's getting into him here, but this stuff is driving lots of people a bit nuts.
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Posted: Mon Sep 01, 2008 4:24 am Post subject: Re: Global Warming News links
mos6507 wrote:
dohboi wrote:
Yeah, elsewhere I've seen Lovelock equating humans micromanaging the climate to goats tending to a garden. I don't know what's getting into him here, but this stuff is driving lots of people a bit nuts.
Desperate times call for desperate measures.
Cutting your foot off because it is stuck in a bear trap is only a good idea if you will die otherwise. Trying to 'manage' geoengineering is the equivalent of cutting your own foot off without knowing how to properly tie a tourniquet to prevent yourself from bleeding to death. _________________ Always appeal to a man's enlightened self interest, you can trust him to look out for himself honestly, It's when you appeal to his Honor or the Common Good that he stops paying attention.
Posted: Mon Sep 01, 2008 5:41 am Post subject: Re: Global Warming News links
Tanada wrote:
mos6507 wrote:
dohboi wrote:
Yeah, elsewhere I've seen Lovelock equating humans micromanaging the climate to goats tending to a garden. I don't know what's getting into him here, but this stuff is driving lots of people a bit nuts.
Desperate times call for desperate measures.
Cutting your foot off because it is stuck in a bear trap is only a good idea if you will die otherwise. Trying to 'manage' geoengineering is the equivalent of cutting your own foot off without knowing how to properly tie a tourniquet to prevent yourself from bleeding to death.
Geoengineering is irrelevant. Foot is already cut off with blunt and dirty tool.
Now you are only trying to stop bleeding and you are pouring more and more of iodine (alcoholic solution of I2) on your wound while gangrene is developing. All what you can hope for are additional chemical burns.
Joined: Mar 04, 2005 Posts: 2768 Location: New Zealand
Posted: Sat Sep 06, 2008 8:58 pm Post subject: Re: Global Warming News links
Global warming greatest in past decade
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Researchers confirm that surface temperatures in the Northern Hemisphere were warmer over the last 10 years than any time during the last 1300 years, and, if the climate scientists include the somewhat controversial data derived from tree-ring records, the warming is anomalous for at least 1700 years.
The new study shows that, with caveats, tree-ring data can be used, but that even without including that data, it is clear that the anomalous nature of recent warmth, which most scientists believe to be a result of human impacts on climate, is a reality.
physorg _________________ Human history becomes more and more a race between education and catastrophe. H. G. Wells.
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