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nobodypanic
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 04, 2008 4:36 pm    Post subject: Re: Barack Obama endorses tapping the SPR Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

yep libertarianism is the key!

because corporations are so much more responsible than government.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 04, 2008 4:50 pm    Post subject: Re: Barack Obama endorses tapping the SPR Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

CNN is running wall to wall coverage on Ubama's campaign changes. First his Iraq plan reverses, then his NASA plan reverses, then his energy plan reverses. Now if only he'd back down on those stupid entitlements for homeowers. It's "Change in Ubama you can count on."
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 04, 2008 5:28 pm    Post subject: Re: Barack Obama endorses tapping the SPR Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

nobodypanic wrote:
yep libertarianism is the key!

because corporations are so much more responsible than government.


Responsible to who?

Libertarianism is fascism, just packaged a little nicer.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 04, 2008 5:33 pm    Post subject: Re: Barack Obama endorses tapping the SPR Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

vision-master wrote:
nobodypanic wrote:
yep libertarianism is the key!

because corporations are so much more responsible than government.


Responsible to who?


you don't say? Laughing
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 04, 2008 6:29 pm    Post subject: Re: Barack Obama endorses tapping the SPR Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Vote green or write-in a candidate if you don't like the LP.

But if you don't vote, THEY WIN.

Our votes work to counter-act the votes of the elitist f*cks who run this country. If we don't vote, their votes count twice.

I'm going to be voting Libertarian this election. Not because I think the LP can or even should win, but because it sends a message that we don't want the Republicrats controlling us anymore.

Also, when in doubt, vote against the incumbent.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 04, 2008 7:14 pm    Post subject: Re: Barack Obama endorses tapping the SPR Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Tyler_JC wrote:
Vote green or write-in a candidate if you don't like the LP.

Also, when in doubt, vote against the incumbent.



Yup, I too will be voting for a third party. As usual.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 04, 2008 7:30 pm    Post subject: Re: Barack Obama endorses tapping the SPR Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Tyler_JC wrote:

I'm going to be voting Libertarian this election. Not because I think the LP can or even should win, but because it sends a message that we don't want the Republocrats controlling us anymore.


And that there is the whole story.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 04, 2008 9:01 pm    Post subject: Re: Barack Obama endorses tapping the SPR Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Bob Barr seems more of a Republican than a libertarian to me.

I did vote for Ron Paul in the Wisconsin primary, for whatever good that did.

Over 90% of the incumbents that ran in 2004 won. We aren't going to have any meaningful change unless that situation changes.

However, no matter who is in power, this country is going to exploit every source of oil that is economically feasible to exploit. And maybe some sources that aren't economical.

As the oil supply gets tighter, the country will demand this. Unless there is a significant (very soon) breakthrough in alternatives, desperation will silence all opposition.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 05, 2008 12:58 am    Post subject: Obama has a solution for PO - Open SPR Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Well, yes, that is what US president candidate is suggesting.

1. Open SPR and release 70mb to lower short term prices.
2. Drill more.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/7541291.stm

I think, we are approaching end game in US economy (haphazard bailouts, release strategic stocks, drill more to get last drops left etc.

I think, oil above $100 is actually making a trick and large parts of economic activities are going to be shut down pretty soon.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 05, 2008 1:10 am    Post subject: Re: Obama endoreses taping the SPR Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

topics merged by wisconsin_cur
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 05, 2008 5:15 am    Post subject: Re: Obama endoreses taping the SPR Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Smile

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 05, 2008 6:28 am    Post subject: Re: Obama endorses tapping the SPR Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

How the World Works has an excellent review of the full proposal by Obama, including a link to the full text of the speech.

I think tapping the SPR is a strategy to counter McCain's offshore drilling gambit. The full proposal is heavy on renewables. How we'll pay for it is anyone's guess, but that applies to any suggestion from either candidate at this point.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 05, 2008 6:41 am    Post subject: Re: Barack Obama endorses tapping the SPR Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

retiredguy wrote:
Having voted in every election since the sixties, I'll probably join you in abstaining this year.


I've thought the same thing. For all the gnashing of teeth everyone does about politics and PO, nobody seems to say, "it really doesn't matter who is elected. We're screwed!" Whomever wins the office will be the fall guy because there is really nothing they can do to stop this and everyone will blame them anyway. Remember the term sheeple! And besides my happiness is not dependent on the government or anything external. My happiness must come from inside. (OK, I got a bit deep there)

Good luck in your preps!
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 05, 2008 7:29 am    Post subject: Re: Obama endorses tapping the SPR Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Here is a thought, vote against all incumbents. We keep doing that and we will roll over the entire congress in six years. We don't need term limits. We need a motivated voter block.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 05, 2008 9:04 am    Post subject: Re: Obama endorses tapping the SPR Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

It's funny, Obama keeps saying we're not going to solve our problems with a drill, and McCain says we're not going to solve this by inflating our tires. They're both right, but each is just looking at part of the elephant and can't see the whole thing.
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