Like the illusion of Wall Street, with its vast and powerful investment banks, now shuttered, China too is an illusion perpetuated by the Globalists that gave us the 15,000 mile Caesar salad, poisoned cat food and lead based paint on babies' pacifiers. Like the illusion that money would come from thin air to always push housing prices higher, China has spent a generation pursuing its illusion. Pursuing an unattainable dream to be like the West, while 6000 years of its carefully shepherded top soil blows into the sea.
Joined: Mar 04, 2005 Posts: 2765 Location: New Zealand
Posted: Tue Aug 05, 2008 8:23 pm Post subject: The Urgent Need to Address Future Oil Scarcity in NZ
The Urgent Need to Address Future Oil Scarcity in New Zealand
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About 70 people attended the joint Engineers for Social Responsibility/Sustainable Energy Forum conference on "Responding to Oil Depletion and Climate Change" in Auckland on Saturday 26 July. Most of the conference presentations, plus the conference statement and report, are now available online at: http://www.sef.org.nz/conferences.html#2008
The conference was a resounding success. Those present accepted the urgent changes we need to be talking about, the mix of cold hard facts that we as a society find hard to face up to but also the hope for the future in the examples of local action in New Zealand communities on sustainable towns, and examples from abroad. Those present at the conference were deeply concerned at the lack of urgent action by the Government and most political parties on rising oil prices, peak oil, and climate change. The conference therefore agreed the following statement, in the hope of helping raise government and community awareness, and to help build a consensus for change.
theoildrum _________________ Human history becomes more and more a race between education and catastrophe. H. G. Wells.
Fatih Birol's motto: leave oil before it leaves us.
Joined: Oct 18, 2004 Posts: 2130 Location: kiwibush
Posted: Tue Aug 05, 2008 11:01 pm Post subject: Re: The Urgent Need to Address Future Oil Scarcity in NZ
Graeme wrote:
The Urgent Need to Address Future Oil Scarcity in New Zealand
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About 70 people attended the joint Engineers for Social Responsibility/Sustainable Energy Forum conference on "Responding to Oil Depletion and Climate Change" in Auckland on Saturday 26 July. Most of the conference presentations, plus the conference statement and report, are now available online at: http://www.sef.org.nz/conferences.html#2008
The conference was a resounding success. Those present accepted the urgent changes we need to be talking about, the mix of cold hard facts that we as a society find hard to face up to but also the hope for the future in the examples of local action in New Zealand communities on sustainable towns, and examples from abroad. Those present at the conference were deeply concerned at the lack of urgent action by the Government and most political parties on rising oil prices, peak oil, and climate change. The conference therefore agreed the following statement, in the hope of helping raise government and community awareness, and to help build a consensus for change.
Community awareness!!! Hahahahahaha. The SUV's are disappearing off car lots faster than they can import 'em. _________________ Bugger me, I hear oil's runnin out mate!
Posted: Wed Aug 06, 2008 2:10 am Post subject: Re: The Urgent Need to Address Future Oil Scarcity in NZ
Well that's something, I guess. The transition town movement happening in a few places is good news too. But seeing as it looks like we are going to give National(the only party with less interest in PO than Labour, it seems) a resounding victory at the next election, I feel we have some distance to travel. In one of their very few statements of intent re policy, they've already announced their intention to ramp up roading expenditure
Thanks for posting this tho, Graeme, it's interesting, I would have attended the meeting had I known it was on.
Joined: Jul 12, 2004 Posts: 184 Location: New Zealand
Posted: Wed Aug 06, 2008 4:08 am Post subject: Re: The Urgent Need to Address Future Oil Scarcity in NZ
Whoever gets in, and it will be National, they will get a wake up call which will shock them to the core. Still time to emigrate to Australia, property prices there are coming back and they have more oil than NZ.
Posted: Wed Aug 06, 2008 4:36 am Post subject: Re: The Urgent Need to Address Future Oil Scarcity in NZ
I'd rather be in NZ than Australia. I won't be surprised if we start seeing a reversal of the NZ to Oz immigration trend in the next decade or so, due the the fact that Australia's expected to really dry out with global warming.
I think we need a change from Labour but I'm not impressed with National either. I like the Greens generally, but think we need a party that's much tougher on crime and delinquincy and gets tough with the bludgers.
Apparantly the Maori Party is quite clued up when it comes to peak oil.
Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 3:06 pm Post subject: Re: The Urgent Need to Address Future Oil Scarcity in NZ
Nice to see some problems being talked about at least in NZ, I just hope not too much action is taken so I can still emmigrate there in 2 years with my soon to be worthless degree. _________________ April 2008 Global Population: 6.8 billion
April 2010 Global Population: 7 billion
April 2012 Global Population: 7.2 billion
Posted: Fri Aug 08, 2008 10:21 am Post subject: Re: The Urgent Need to Address Future Oil Scarcity in NZ
kiwiduncan wrote:
What's your degree in? If you've still got two years to study you could maybe change it a bit couldn't you? What parts of NZ are you interested in?
Computer Science. I'm working for a year at the moment as part of my degree so I should have all the money I need to emmigrate. Unfortunetly I can't change my subject at this point. I am going to try for Christchurch or the South Island in general, but anywhere is better than staying in the UK(peak or no peak...). _________________ April 2008 Global Population: 6.8 billion
April 2010 Global Population: 7 billion
April 2012 Global Population: 7.2 billion
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