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PostPosted: Fri Aug 08, 2008 7:16 am    Post subject: Re: Today I made / bought / learnt .... (for a post oil worl Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

patience wrote:
UNCONFIRMED RUMOR.

The guy that runs a local farm feed mill and store was at a meeting with one of his major suppliers, who told him that China had said they would stop exporting nails, so he was advised to buy up all he could get.


Why on earth would they stop exporting nails?? That sounds unlikely to me.

OTOH, I like a good excuse to buy more. Smile

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 08, 2008 7:33 am    Post subject: Re: Today I made / bought / learnt .... (for a post oil worl Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

FoolYap,

I don't know why they would stop exporting. Maybe they need a lot to rebuild after their earthquakes, or they are just ticked off at Bush for criticizing their "human rights" policy. Or maybe it's all hot air. But I went to Home Depot and loaded up anyway, since it was part of my plans, and everything made of steel has been going up since the Australian mines flooded. A year ago? Last January? Major interruption of iron mining anyhow, and ore went up about 50% I think. My wholesale steel cost went up 52% from January 08 to May 08. The commodity "bubble" may burst (correction), but I'm convinced it is a good long term play to buy all the steel stuff you want soon, if not already.

Likewise, I think synthetic rubber products (already up big time), plastics (same), and non-ferrous metals will all go up as energy costs more, and petrochemicals go up accordingly. The dollar index is bouncing back now, and metals, oil and other commodities are down a bit, so I see that as a buying opportunity. Nonetheless, my cracked and foggy crystal ball is unreliable, so I'm not going nuts about this, just buying what I know I will use. There is also reason to hedge against shortages down the road a ways, since our dysfunctional economy could at some point prompt the govt to institute price controls, causing immediate shortages of whatever.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 08, 2008 6:43 pm    Post subject: Re: Today I made / bought / learnt .... (for a post oil worl Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

We found a food service supply store and got 50 lbs. of parboiled rice for $34.00. High, but it cooks in a jiffy. Hit the big box stores and got a quantity of nails, and stocked the home medicine cabinet. Bought a few AA batteries, but will shop the net for more. Already have rechargeables. Worked some more on organizing storage.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 08, 2008 8:50 pm    Post subject: Re: Today I made / bought / learnt .... (for a post oil worl Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

The goats have been getting in trouble. That means they're bored.

So today I raked up a bunch of thistles I had scythed a couple days ago to keep them from going to seed, and spread them out where the goats are tethered. Kept them busy all day!

They won't eat the fool things when they're live, but after they've been cut for a day or two, they dive right in. Contains lots of iron.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 09, 2008 6:51 am    Post subject: Re: Today I made / bought / learnt .... (for a post oil worl Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

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Do you have a picture of your milking stand? My husband built me two, one for actual milking, and one that is larger for my buck to be on while I trim his feet and such. They work well, but I'm always on the lookout for a design I like better.






Here are a couple of photos of the stanchion. You can see that the front only has one stationary board and one the rotates to lean in and hold the head. There are no boards sandwiching the top of the 2x4s that hold the head, we did away with the extra boards running parallel to the holding boards, and some other minor changes . It is very comfortable and sturdy, and though it is a bit awkward for home person to pick up, it is easily light enough to move alone without dragging it.

We used 4 1x4x8 planks for the stand with a 2x2 cut to support it from below (front to back in the center). 2x2 pieces are also cut to brace across the front and back legs. It took 2 8' 2x2s for that. Then we had one 20' 2x4 and bought 2 8' 2x2s. The 2x4s are used for the frame & the stanchion. All wood was untreated & we used water sealant to make it pee proof.

Except for the planks, all boards are held together with wood screws through washers to distribute the pressure. I'll take detail photos if you like.

All together the wood was about $20 (including an estimate on the price of the 2x4x20 which we had on hand). The eye hook & a pair of eye bolts, the bolt and washers for the rotating piece were about $8. The double clip piece of nylon web (like a 6" leash with a clip at both ends) to go under the neck was $6. The washers, wood screws and nails we had on hand - but a 5lb box of screws will run $20-25 (Husband likes the "square drive" kind). The water seal runs under $10.

$66-71 if you have to buy all the materials new... We're very pleased!
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 09, 2008 7:47 am    Post subject: Re: Today I made / bought / learnt .... (for a post oil worl Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Stopped at the steel/auto salvage place on my way home from a business delivery yesterday, and scored 9 sheets, 2' x 12' galvanized roofing like new, except for nail holes that I'll reuse. Also got several pieces of 3/4" all-thread rod x 5 ft. long, and a chunk of heavy steel angle. The bill was $27, or about 12 cents/lb.

edit: The roofing looks like it will become our new henhouse, and doors for the barn addition. New metal roofing has gone up a lot here. to about $65/ square, which is 10 ft. x 10 ft. area covered, what I found would have cost over $130 new. Keeping cost down! Dad said the way to make money raising animals is to not spend as much raising them as you'll get when you sell. I can use the trimmings from the roofing to make feeders, too. The trough style, with a rotating dowel on top to keep them from perching on it.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 09, 2008 8:42 am    Post subject: Re: Today I made / bought / learnt .... (for a post oil worl Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Regarding the Chinese stopping exporting nails - maybe it's a temporary thing; they have closed down many factories until the Olympics are over (to reduce pollution), and maybe the nail-making operation has been part of that, just like the deal with latex gloves (will be in short suppy since the producer has been temporarily shut down).

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 09, 2008 10:48 am    Post subject: Re: Today I made / bought / learnt .... (for a post oil worl Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Started the deck for the second storey of the screen porch.

Raccoons have started attacking my precious melons. Sad
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 09, 2008 12:40 pm    Post subject: Re: Today I made / bought / learnt .... (for a post oil worl Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Ludi wrote:
Raccoons have started attacking my precious melons. Sad

Oh no! Have you been practicing with that gun?


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PostPosted: Sat Aug 09, 2008 12:40 pm    Post subject: Re: Today I made / bought / learnt .... (for a post oil worl Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Showed son and husband how to use hammock tent:





Pictures of latest stanchion my husband built this week:





Goats lounging around, I think the 2 elder does will be giving birth again soon:



Yes, that is a doghouse in the chicken pen. We have to build them a new coop. They were going to be co-housed with the goats, but I learned the hard way that sometimes they sleep on the floor of the shed, and when they do they get squashed to death by the goats laying down on them. And here I was worried about them getting trampled during the day! Live and learn. So they have a doghouse to huddle in if it rains (fat chance), and they are in a totally enclosed pen (including netting over the top) with an electric fence. They are only about 30 feet from the house, and the pen is also within a fenced yard on our 10 acre place. Though there are many predators around, so far we have had no losses to predation this year. I'm sure that will change eventually if we don't build them a more secure coop for night time, which we'll be doing in the next couple of weeks.

My annual gardens are a total loss this year. I left the seedlings in their flats too long, planted too late, and didn't have enough time to plan and set them up properly because we moved in early May. Not to mention the heat and drought. But that's not such a big deal. I don't consider depending on an annual garden for food security to be a good survival strategy, although I do want to keep getting better at it.

Actually my potatoes and eggplants are doing okay.

I got some yams to plant, and have started learning about what I can forage here.

Continuing to slowly build up food stocks.

Trying to enjoy what we can, while we can. Life is fairly easy right now, and I expect that to change soon.
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We put 27 pints of sweet corn in the freezer today. I wanted to can it instead, but my wife wasn't feeling well, and blanch and freeze was easier. Also got a quart on the stove cooked to eat next week and a couple of fresh ears for supper. All off 2 rows 75 ft. long. We'll do more next year. Bush beans are blooming, so that will be along soon, but 4 rows of potatoes need dug first. They will wait till next weekend, since the vines aren't all dead yet. I want to get the potatoes out pretty soon, though, and plant turnips and kale. If we have a late fall, those will grow until a hard freeze, maybe late November here. The pantry shelves are getting full.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 10, 2008 8:38 am    Post subject: Re: Today I made / bought / learnt .... (for a post oil worl Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Ordered a wood snath and a 30" scythe grass blade yesterday from Neeps Lawn and Garden. Wood snaths were out of stock several places, and this outfit was the cheapest that I found anyway. Search the site for snath if you want; the link is for blades:

Neeps Lawn and Garden

Had an aluminum snath years ago, and didn't like the balance as well as the old wooden one. I don't seem to fit the European style as well, but it's probably the result of what I'm used to using. I checked EBay and Craigslist first, but found either rusty antiques or none at all. This is for mowing difficult areas, but I can make a wood cradle for it if necessary, should we decide to grow some wheat.
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patience wrote:
Ordered a wood snath and a 30" scythe grass blade yesterday... This is for mowing difficult areas...


Since you've scythed before, I'm sure you have a brush blade, as well.

Just wouldn't want people new to scything to read your posting and think a 30" blade is what you get for "difficult areas." :-)

Last summer, I maintained over an acre of grass with a 30" blade, switching to a 16" brush blade for trimming edges and such. I'd go out in the evening after it cooled down for a half-hour or so, every day. I turned it and stored it for mulch and bedding, and fed it to our goats. But now I've got three times as much grass to take care of until we can turn it into something more productive, and am quite intimidated at the thought of scything it all!

Requisite on-topic stuff: today, I'm going to move the last of our junk from our 4.8 acre "Lite" site to our new 37 acre site. At least that's what I say every time I go over there to move stuff... :-)
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 10, 2008 10:32 am    Post subject: Re: Today I made / bought / learnt .... (for a post oil worl Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Small-time first-year gardener here... we've had some decent produce, but yesterday we harvested just about the biggest, reddest pepper I've seen. It was unbelievably sweet and juicy. My girl doesn't even like peppers much, and she was as astounded as I. We ate it in awe.

Hoping to make some more of those! Smile
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Bytesmiths,

Good point. What I said was confusing. That long grass blade is easily bent and ruined on anything but grass. My difficult areas are just very steep, unsafe to mow on a rider. No big tough weeds or brush. Well, I don't have a brush blade, and don't want one now, 'cause my old back doesn't like the jerks. For that stuff, I go for a machete, or lopping shears now.

My last experience with a brush blade was as a kid, cleaning out an unused pig lot, with 7 ft. horseweeds and wormweeds. One mighty (and only semi controlled) swing stuck the end of the blade in an old wood post. Yanking it free disturbed the nest of wood boring bumblebees inside, who sent a couple squadrons out to attack. Spent the day soaking the stings in whatever, and left the weeds for Dad to deal with--and the bees.
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