Russia Georgia Ossetia Alkhazia Ukraine War

ir290762 · Heavy Crude Joined: Aug 10, 2008 Posts: 105

Russian media reports that the US allocated financial aid to Georgia for immediate relief of the consequences of the Russian atrocities.

The amount of aid -- US$250,000. Kind of not too much, judging by the size of the Russian atrocities as represented by Center for Narrating Nonsense and the likes.

Plantagenet

ir290762 · Heavy Crude Joined: Aug 10, 2008 Posts: 105

12 more wounded in Tskhinvali last night, despite all the ceasefire babble.

Russian recon teams briefly visit various Georgian settlements in the vicinity of the conflict area and LEAVE. No assault on Tbilisi, no serious moves by the regular troops. Looks like Russian side is ready to stop once it eliminates the Georgian threat to Ossetia and Abkhazia.

And again -- Georgian side confirmed no Russian troops in Gori.

ir290762 · Heavy Crude Joined: Aug 10, 2008 Posts: 105

Maybe it is a private fund. Any refs to the source?

I actually read quite a lot except RU sources -- trying to "keep my Russian bias harnessed"

nero

I don't know if this has been discussed in this thread yet but do you guys not think this might be a bit of pay back for how the west has been treating Serbia. The Serbia/Kosovo/Nato situation is a direct parallel to the Georgia/South Ossetia/Russia situation.

In each case a small but proud nation has a minority populated province. Both provinces were the scene of a small civil war several years ago that has never been resolved and has left the territory divided along ethnic lines. The de facto independence of the enclave is protected by a "peacekeeping force" provided by a neighbouring power. The enclave holds a referendum and declares independence that is pthen romptly recognized by the province's patron but that is dismissed by most other nations. The small nation takes steps to exert its authority in the breakaway province.

Serbia and Russia of course played the situation much more deftly. They saw they couldn't win militarily and so we avoided war. Georgia on the other hand, no doubt backed up by George "Bring em on" Bush, decided to attack even though Russia was well prepared to defend their forces in the enclave. This is a disaster for American diplomacy, but perhaps not so coincidentally, it is a boon to the Republican presidential hopes.
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GeneralGreen

Americans stop the Russian invasion LOL Smile

They can't even stop the Mexicans and other 1000s of illegals invading their own homeland.. USA..
I just did a Google Image on the US Troops..I found a few National Guard companies from Alabama and Texas... I thought I was looking at Zimbabwe and Peru's Army...but it was US
Wow the USA is not the nation is was in 1941 thats for sure. I'm glad I left the USA and left the US Army!!!

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GeneralGreen

Very strange the Russians halted....Strange indeed... They really then only accomplish 2 things
1. Freeing the two providences
2. Possible making the Georgian President look bad...
Seems like energy the pipelines etc have nothing to do with this conflict...I'm skeptical.
Also when I referred to the USA stopping the Invasion I meant get involved militarily.
Also most of the Russian troops are still enroute..and Georgia hasn't ceased fire.
The President of Georgia started this....and if he ends its...he is done! Either via a Mussolini style or elected out with new elections soon. I seriously wonder if Georgia will ceasefire...they said they have like 5 times already and that was clearly lies.

dorlomin · Light Sweet Crude Joined: Aug 05, 2007 Posts: 1151

ir290762 · Heavy Crude Joined: Aug 10, 2008 Posts: 105

US military on the Russian offensive
http://afp.google.com/article/ALeqM5gj_jyRnqBYekXz2MyszBj6k_ZMtw

ir290762 · Heavy Crude Joined: Aug 10, 2008 Posts: 105

Medvedev declared the end of the "forcing to peace" operation.

GeneralGreen

phaeryen · Heavy Crude Joined: Apr 18, 2007 Posts: 124

thoughts:

A 'compromise' of some sorts must have been reached through back channels. Something that more or less resembles an unconditional surrender by Georgia, but in a way that helps everyone involved save a little face?

The situation will continue to be extremely tense for a few days, so lets not jump the gun on this ceasefire until it really starts to look like it will last.

MD