Manufactured conflict to give McCain points

alfonzo · Tar Sands Joined: Aug 12, 2008 Posts: 23

I didn't say it or I would be called a nutcase.

The Obama angle is getting wide play. It was aired on Wednesday by Sergei Markov, a senior political scientist who is close to Vladimir Putin, the Prime Minister and power behind President Medvedev.

“George Bush's Administration is promoting interests of candidate John McCain,” said Dr Markov. “Defeated by Barak Obama on all fronts, McCain has one last card to play yet - the creation of a virtual Cold War with Russia . . . Bush himself did not want a war in South Ossetia but his Republican Party did not leave him any choice.” The Americans were now engineering an armed conflict between Ukraine and Russia, Dr Markov added.

So, since they want a Bush III term, they are setting it up so McCain will look like a good candidate.

Problem is, once he gets in we would have lots more of these problems.

Time to get the neocons out, the whole Dynasty.

mos6507

What the hell do Russian political scientists know about the neocons??

The Georgia crisis does NOT make the Bush administration look good. It makes it look weak, because of our overstretched military and the lack of moral high ground prevents us from condemning military adventurism without looking like hypocrites.
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Plantagenet

The suggestion that John McCain made the Russians invade Georgia to help his campaign is bizarre.

I'm skeptical. Do you have evidence of the actual magic spell he used on the Russians? Rolling Eyes

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Ferretlover

Anything, I suppose, is possible by the current adminstration-they have no ethics or personal honor; they have shown nothing but contempt and a total lack of regard for the Constitution and laws of the USA.
However, I cannot see how the US could possibly take on another war front. Too few troops and a bankrupt financial system would make it difficult.
They have cried 'wolf' one too many times.
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mmasters

Yes, he will get played up. It's all a staged play.
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dinopello

Mccain is the original maverick. Would a Maverick condone this ?

nobodypanic · Intermediate Crude Joined: Jun 02, 2008 Posts: 620

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heroineworshipper

BP shut down the pipeline & Russia stopped bombing. Why can't anyone but Russia fight for oil?
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alfonzo · Tar Sands Joined: Aug 12, 2008 Posts: 23

alfonzo · Tar Sands Joined: Aug 12, 2008 Posts: 23

dirthoser · Tar Sands Joined: Aug 12, 2008 Posts: 26

This is easy:
1. There is an oil line, everything was running fine.
2. Russia shuts down the oil line.
3. A problem developsand both sides blame each other.

Who do you think started it?

Plantagenet

Plantagenet

Hi Alfonzo: I suggest you re-read the article in the The Times.
The "major paper" (ie. The Times) isn't reporting that McCain magically made the Russians invade Georgia...The major paper is reporting that a nutty Russia propaganda compaign is trying to brainwash Russians and others into thinking the US, Cheney and McCain somehow magically caused the Russian invasion of Georgia....

Here' what it actually said:

From The Times August 15, 2008
Kremlin dusts off Cold War lexicon to make US villain in Georgia by Charles Bremner in Moscow
Russians were told over breakfast yesterday what really happened in Georgia: the conflict in South Ossetia was part of a plot by Dick Cheney, the Vice-President, to stop Barak Obama being elected president of the United States.

The line came on the main news of Vesti FM, a state radio station that — like the Government and much of Russia's media — has reverted to the old habits of Soviet years, in which a sinister American hand was held to lie behind every conflict, especially those embarrassing to Moscow. Modern Russia may be plugged into the internet and the global marketplace but in the battle for world opinion the Kremlin is replaying the old black-and-white movie.

Hard to believe anybody is gullible enough to fall for obvious propaganda like that..... Cool

nero

Hey Plantagenet,

The Russians have been in S. Ossettia for over a decade, so they "invaded" over a decade ago not last week.

It has been reported that the Georgian president did start the current round of major military operations. From the high level of rediness that the Russians were at, I think they were looking for an excuse and were happy when the Georgians gave them one. Neither side is blameless but perhaps it could have been avoided if the Georgians hadn't acted so rashly. McCain seems to have a very close relationship with the current Georgian president. The question to ask is whether or not McCain or one of his advisors encourage Saakashvili to believe that the USA would have Georgia's back in the event of a conflict.
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