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AirlinePilot Moderator


Joined: Apr 05, 2005 Posts: 2608 Location: South of Atlanta
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Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 6:10 pm Post subject: Re: Aviation Fuel price record |
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| Strictly a "100$ hamburger" type plane. Costs about 30-35$/hour to fly (total costs). Burns 5 gal/hour. Its just for local pleasure flights really. Cant carry any real load, and it only goes about 100 mph. Range of about 280-325 miles depending on winds. |
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caliginousface Tar Sands


Joined: Mar 05, 2006 Posts: 97 Location: San Jose, CA
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Posted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 11:44 am Post subject: Re: Aviation Fuel price record |
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| AirlinePilot wrote: | | Strictly a "100$ hamburger" type plane. Costs about 30-35$/hour to fly (total costs). Burns 5 gal/hour. Its just for local pleasure flights really. Cant carry any real load, and it only goes about 100 mph. Range of about 280-325 miles depending on winds. |
$30-35??!?! I wish we had those rates out here! A 152 around these parts is 86/hr. |
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AirlinePilot Moderator


Joined: Apr 05, 2005 Posts: 2608 Location: South of Atlanta
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Posted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 8:20 pm Post subject: Re: Aviation Fuel price record |
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| Thats MY cost to fly it, I dont rent. I own the aircraft free and clear. I consider insurance, fuel, and a certain amount for maintenance each hour in determining the cost. |
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AirlinePilot Moderator


Joined: Apr 05, 2005 Posts: 2608 Location: South of Atlanta
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Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 11:11 pm Post subject: Re: Aviation Fuel price record |
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Avgas 5.60
Jetfuel 4.08
This is really getting serious. |
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SMA Coal


Joined: Jul 11, 2008 Posts: 18 Location: Sweden
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Posted: Sat Jul 12, 2008 10:38 am Post subject: Re: Aviation Fuel price record |
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| caliginousface wrote: |
$30-35??!?! I wish we had those rates out here! A 152 around these parts is 86/hr. |
You guys still have it cheap then; the 152 at my flying club rents for the equivalent of 190 dollars/hour, fuel included. |
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AirlinePilot Moderator


Joined: Apr 05, 2005 Posts: 2608 Location: South of Atlanta
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Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2008 12:39 pm Post subject: Re: Aviation Fuel price record |
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Avgas 5.65/gal.
I just attended a recent fly in of Cessna 150 owners in Iowa. Attendance was down about 25%. Avgas prices are really starting to hurt General Aviation on the recreational side.
Jet Fuel 3.96/gal.
While that is down a bit since last week or two it is still ridiculously high and not commensurate with the decrease in crude prices.
Airlines are still bleeding due to this. It's going to be very interesting to see how long this can go on before they start dropping out of the race. |
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AirlinePilot Moderator


Joined: Apr 05, 2005 Posts: 2608 Location: South of Atlanta
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Posted: Sun Aug 17, 2008 12:52 pm Post subject: Re: Aviation Fuel price record |
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Avgas 5.58 This number isn't coming down very fast and it's got me ticked off.
Jetfuel 3.33 Thats better but over the longer term its still very high. Anything over 2.25 or so could be considered very expensive as of just a year or two ago. |
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AirlinePilot Moderator


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Posted: Mon Sep 01, 2008 7:40 pm Post subject: Re: Aviation Fuel price record |
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Avgas 5.56
Jetfuel 3.24 |
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AirlinePilot Moderator


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Posted: Wed Sep 24, 2008 9:42 pm Post subject: Re: Aviation Fuel price record |
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Avgas is moving back higher again, Im sure its supply related.
Avgas is at 5.63
Jetfuel continues its decline, likely due to the amount of schedule shrinkage at the majors.
Jetfuel 3.13 |
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AirlinePilot Moderator


Joined: Apr 05, 2005 Posts: 2608 Location: South of Atlanta
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Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2008 10:09 am Post subject: Re: Aviation Fuel price record |
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Jetfuel is down to 2.92 this week!
Avgas is still reluctant to show the drop as regular car gas has. Its still above 5 at 5.48 |
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pup55 Expert


Joined: May 26, 2004 Posts: 3853
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Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2008 10:23 am Post subject: Re: Aviation Fuel price record |
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AP:
Do you have any observations on the following:
a. How has the current situation affected the charter-type flying i.e. companies that want to charter planes to fly their people around? Do you have a sense of what is going on in that business?
Probably some of this is affected by the airlines' fare strategy at the moment (doing whatever they need to fill the seats).
b. Any noticeable effects on the amount of pleasure flying yet? I imagine anyone who is really into flying and has deep pockets will still be glad to pay a hundred or so for a weekend flight around town. |
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AirlinePilot Moderator


Joined: Apr 05, 2005 Posts: 2608 Location: South of Atlanta
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Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2008 1:29 pm Post subject: Re: Aviation Fuel price record |
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| pup55 wrote: | AP:
Do you have any observations on the following:
a. How has the current situation affected the charter-type flying i.e. companies that want to charter planes to fly their people around? Do you have a sense of what is going on in that business?
Probably some of this is affected by the airlines' fare strategy at the moment (doing whatever they need to fill the seats).
b. Any noticeable effects on the amount of pleasure flying yet? I imagine anyone who is really into flying and has deep pockets will still be glad to pay a hundred or so for a weekend flight around town. |
All I have is anecdotal evidence but on the pleasure flying end its noticeable that there is a decline. I've attended three events, during the last few months and the attendance was down at all of them as far as aircraft go.
Not sure about the charter stuff as I have no real exposure to it.
I'm flying slightly less but can still afford the bi-monthly 100$ Hamburger. |
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AirlinePilot Moderator


Joined: Apr 05, 2005 Posts: 2608 Location: South of Atlanta
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Posted: Sun Nov 02, 2008 9:13 am Post subject: Re: Aviation Fuel price record |
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This weeks latest drop:
Avgas is down nicely to 5.02 The drop seemed very delayed compared to regular autogas reductions recently.
Jetfuel continues it's decline and now sits at 2.17 which while still expensive is a huge relief and has to be having a large effect on bottom line costs. |
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ndemeis Coal


Joined: Dec 03, 2008 Posts: 1
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Posted: Wed Dec 03, 2008 4:52 am Post subject: Re: Aviation Fuel price record |
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| Was curious if anyone has information on European jet fuel prices? I'm currently abroad and haven't noticed a price change in regular gasoline prices since oil has crashed since i've been here. What is jet fuel doing can only seem to find information on US prices or old european prices from 2006? |
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AirlinePilot Moderator


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Posted: Wed Dec 03, 2008 4:48 pm Post subject: Re: Aviation Fuel price record |
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Avgas now 4.47 national average
Jetfuel is down to 1.86 and continues its drop largely due to the giant reduction in jet fuel demand. |
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