Like the illusion of Wall Street, with its vast and powerful investment banks, now shuttered, China too is an illusion perpetuated by the Globalists that gave us the 15,000 mile Caesar salad, poisoned cat food and lead based paint on babies' pacifiers. Like the illusion that money would come from thin air to always push housing prices higher, China has spent a generation pursuing its illusion. Pursuing an unattainable dream to be like the West, while 6000 years of its carefully shepherded top soil blows into the sea.
Posted: Sun Aug 17, 2008 1:29 pm Post subject: Re: Russia Georgia Ossetia Alkhazia Ukraine War
Specop_007 wrote:
Ukraine signs on for missile defense. Hell, the Russians are doing our job for us, getting people as American Allies!! Its funny how the whole rest of that area sees Russia as the enemy and yet the mindless hordes right here at home point the finger to the eeevil Amerikan!! Click Ukraine offers satellite defence co-operation with Europe and US. Ukraine inflamed mounting East-West tensions yesterday by offering up a Soviet-built satellite facility as part of the European missile defence system.
it's looking more and more like russia's 'brilliant' move is turning into a strategic blunder.
in other news, the russian's are threatening to open air and naval bases in syria and moving nuclear weapons into syria and kaliningrad konigsberg.
Posted: Sun Aug 17, 2008 3:44 pm Post subject: Re: Russia Georgia Ossetia Alkhazia Ukraine War
Due to grave miscalculation and blind arrogance of neocons, Georgia can now be added to the growing list of failed projects for the new American century. The Russians are in Georgia to stay.
Quote:
Konstantin Kosachev, chairman of the Russian parliament's foreign affairs committee, said Russian forces will be out of Georgia "sooner or later," but how much time it takes depends on how Georgia behaves.
Echoing Bush's call to withdraw U.S. troops from Iraq depending on conditions on the ground, Kosachev said: "If I would ask you ... `How fast the American forces can leave Iraq?' ... the answer would be, as soon as we have guarantees for peace and security there.
"The same answer would be toward this situation: as soon as we are assured that Georgians will not continue to use military force against South Ossetians and against Abkhazians"
Posted: Sun Aug 17, 2008 5:22 pm Post subject: Re: Russia Georgia Ossetia Alkhazia Ukraine War
"Project for a New American Century" is capitalized.
I'd link to their page, but it looks like it's shut down... hmm...
gw wrote:
Due to grave miscalculation and blind arrogance of neocons, Georgia can now be added to the growing list of failed projects for the new American century. The Russians are in Georgia to stay.
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Posted: Sun Aug 17, 2008 6:07 pm Post subject: Re: Russia Georgia Ossetia Alkhazia Ukraine War
TonisD wrote:
EnergyUnlimited wrote:
And plenty of Mongolians...
Learn your geography There has never been any mongolians here.
Depends also on where your ancestors migrated from. They weren't originally from baltikum you know.
Take the finns for instance, we came from past the Ural and mixed to some extent with Siberian tribes that were to some extent mongolian / north chinese. Finns also had some interface to the Huns (Think Attila).
That is probably why Finnish language is related to Hungarian (Attila spent a lot of time there) and also has some distant relation to Korean and Japanese.
A lot of finns also have high cheekbones and a bit slit eyes.
Given that Estonian language is very much related to Finnish maybe you also have a mongolian ancestor. _________________ It's not a bailout, it's a buy-in" - Nancy Pelosi
Posted: Sun Aug 17, 2008 9:03 pm Post subject: Re: Russia Georgia Ossetia Alkhazia Ukraine War
Quote:
Russia warned: withdraw from Georgia, or else
Nato to hold emergency meeting amid doubts over Kremlin promise
European leaders warned Russia yesterday to withdraw its forces rapidly from Georgia or face unspecified consequences, as Moscow stalled on its pledges to honour a ceasefire and pull back the thousands of troops from the Caucasus republic.
With the US and European governments due to meet tomorrow to consider their options for the first time since the crisis erupted 10 days ago, President Nicolas Sarkozy of France threatened the Kremlin with an ultimatum for the first time, warning that more delays in a pullout "would have serious consequences on relations between Russia and the European Union".
I feel so stupid. Can someone please tell me how I embedd youtube clips?
I used the camera icon, pasted the URL and corrected width/height but it doesn't work.
EDITED: Thanks GW. The code looks the same as mine (except you have a linebreak) but using your code works. Weird. _________________ It's not a bailout, it's a buy-in" - Nancy Pelosi
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Posted: Sun Aug 17, 2008 9:39 pm Post subject: Re: Russia Georgia Ossetia Alkhazia Ukraine War
Not sure what the problem was, but here is the code (added space between left bracket and video to see bbcode):
[ video width=425 height=344]http://www.youtube.com/v/EBh9D2WIGsE&hl=en&fs=1[/video] _________________ "I eat the pretzel, it get stuck in the throat and I pass out..." - George W Bush
March 7, 2007 Remarks by the President to Political Appointees
Posted: Mon Aug 18, 2008 12:37 am Post subject: Re: Russia Georgia Ossetia Alkhazia Ukraine War
TonisD wrote:
And you do know where Estonia is, right? Seems not. The people you might be confusing mongols with, are Tatars. Never ever did a mongol step on my country's soil. They were very close by today's standards but they were not here.
Many Russians (who are carrying plenty of Mongolian blood) did though.
And they f*cked plenty of your women too.
Posted: Mon Aug 18, 2008 1:14 am Post subject: Re: Russia Georgia Ossetia Alkhazia Ukraine War
Russia not moving as yet
Quote:
Western powers have stepped up pressure on Russia to honour its pledge to begin withdrawing troops from Georgia.
French President Nicolas Sarkozy - who brokered the ceasefire agreed by Russia and Georgia - warned of "serious consequences" if Moscow did not comply.
The US and Germany also urged Moscow to start to pull out its troops, who remain deep inside Georgia, on Monday.
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Posted: Mon Aug 18, 2008 1:19 am Post subject: Re: Russia Georgia Ossetia Alkhazia Ukraine War
KevO wrote:
Russia not moving as yet
Quote:
Western powers have stepped up pressure on Russia to honour its pledge to begin withdrawing troops from Georgia.
French President Nicolas Sarkozy - who brokered the ceasefire agreed by Russia and Georgia - warned of "serious consequences" if Moscow did not comply.
The US and Germany also urged Moscow to start to pull out its troops, who remain deep inside Georgia, on Monday.
It seems as if they are testing eachothers resolve.
First Georgia (Western nations) to see if Russia would repond and now Russia testing how far they can go. It is also a good way of testing alliances. Like Turkey, that I think most expected to support Georgia but spoke oout in favor of Russia. It will be rememebered who sided with who. _________________ It's not a bailout, it's a buy-in" - Nancy Pelosi
Posted: Mon Aug 18, 2008 5:16 am Post subject: Re: Russia Georgia Ossetia Alkhazia Ukraine War
From the beginning of hostilities, officials in Moscow were quick to declare that "genocide" was taking place and that up to 2,000 people had been killed in attacks deliberately aimed at Tskhinvali's civilian population.
Vladimir Putin, the prime minister, went on television to claim that Georgian tanks were crushing children and Georgian soldiers were beheading civilians.
Yet the first independent human rights activists attempting to calculate the civilian death toll have so far only been able to confirm the deaths of 44 people according to records from Tskhinvali's only hospital.
According to Human Rights Watch, the respected New York-based body, the Kremlin's deliberate exaggeration of the civilian death toll was inevitably contributing to the scale of reprisals against Georgians.
Asked whether he had personally seen any children crushed by Georgian tanks, Sulim replied: "No, but I heard Putin say it so it must be true."
And that my friends, is how Russia works.. No real proof is needed, when Putin says something, then that is how it is. Period.
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