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Oksana · Coal Joined: Aug 14, 2008 Posts: 4 Location: Moscow

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Aug-9-2008

Georgians kill women and children Russian Federation citizens, remaining in the city.

Fights against Georgian infantry are conducted on the south and south-western outskirts of Tskhinval. Resistance is being held so far, but a group of Georgian special forces came through the city, they throw grenades into basements which shelter women and children. Georgian tanks are approaching the south-eastern part of Tskhinval.
Georgia doesn’t let evacuate civilians and journalists from Tskhinval.

dorlomin · Light Sweet Crude Joined: Aug 05, 2007 Posts: 1151

Edited. Lifes too short.

Back to depletion issues.

Jupidu

Hello Oksana, when i saw the picture of the soldier holding the anxious and despared baby in his arms, i got very angry. Most probably it lost it's parents.

War is such a bullshit! Weapons are such a bullshit! What could be done with all that money?
I served two years as a volunteer in the german army (From age of 19 till 21). Now i wouldn't do that again, but instead i would do a social work.
Cindy Sheehan (she has lost her oldest son in Irak) has written recently an open letter to all people loving peace: She says that everybody should stop his work till all the wars are stopped and the soldiers are back home in their countries.
A relative of me (his mexican mother is the sister of my aunt) died last year in February in Irak. He leaves behind his wife and two children. I saw him running in the house of my parents in Germany when he was a little child.

I suspect with high a high degree of probability that this reports are true, because there is a lot of money in the background and politics has to cover the truth before people start to disover it.

For us, even for us europeans (most of us never visited eastern europe) it is very difficult to distinguish just by photos who is on which side. The writing is different, we can't distinguish the faces, the uniforms, the tanks, the images of citys, the landscapes, etc.

Germany is, for sure, involved with several aspects (perhaps delivery of weapons, military advisors, secret service informations - a saying goes: "Death is a master from Germany) on the side of Georgia.

Germany has very little oil in the ground, but there exists already enough knowledge and technics to be independent of oil completely and in only some years (light cars with very low consumption, enhancement of mass transit, work at home, more support for agriculture). But this needs a complete change in mind.

Some soldiers (especially the mercenary troops) are pure sadists, others are executing orders because they have fear and some are already psychological hurt very bad so they can't distinguish any more between good and bad.

Why do men are becoming mercenarys? I once thought also to serve eventually at the Legion d'Honneur in France. For Christ sake i didn't do it.
My parents (both are teachers, now retired) did everything to feed me and to give me shelter, but they didn't care too much for my soul (my marks were more important then my feelings, was beaten by the mother several times, was bellowed by my father very often when i made mistakes at my home-works). That's sounds a bit hard. In relation to the childhood of other people it was a very mild form of miseducation, nevertheless psychological injurys are comparable to physical ones.
Last year i discovered the books of Alice Miller (e.g. "The drama of the talented child", "In the beginning was education", "You shall not notice"). This books opened my eyes a lot. I learned that my parents just transferred their own experiences with violence in their childhood to me. My father (69 years old, me 40) till today narrated perhaps two or three sentences about his own childhood, so i suppose, in relation to Alice Miller books, that his experiences weren't too happy also.
So we don't need more violence or hatred in our life but more love and tolerance. To give a smile to somebody and above all to listen is often more important than to fight in a war for peace, perhaps because of this smile someone and to give the feeling someone cares about you decides about going to the army or not.
I know that in many countries, fathers are expelling their sons from home when they are 18. To survive, the only solution is often to serve as a soldier.

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Roccland · Peak Oil Prophet Joined: Jun 16, 2007 Posts: 1696

The guy in the black shirt top picture just keeps popping up...

And again here in the bottom picture...
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eXpat · Light Sweet Crude Joined: Jun 08, 2006 Posts: 1081

Good find,I saw those photos before, but i didn´t notice it was the same guy, it may be that they are identical triplets (or even quadruplets), I mean, I coudn´t possibly think that someone is trying to influence public opinion with phony news, That is unheard of!!!!!
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Roccland · Peak Oil Prophet Joined: Jun 16, 2007 Posts: 1696

GeneralGreen

Hnmm very interesting pictures..Looks like someone wants to alter the images of this conflict.
Oksana, I am from Russia and hope justice is done to the rampaging Georgians! My thoughts and prayers go out to you.

nero

i don't think the man in black is the same as the guy holding the body (his nose is different). The picture with the dead man in it is taken from reverse directions. You can see the blood from his wrist in both pictures. In one he has been turned over and is cradled in the other man's arms. I think this is quite plausible series of events. The man with his shirt on and the man crouching are the same man but he probably took his shirt off to use as a bandage at some point.

I'm not saying it might not be easily misleading by choosing only to release some photos or by mistating where it is but seriously you don't think there might be a few dead bodies around when you have a war? Who would need to stage these sorts of shots?
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