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PostPosted: Sun Aug 03, 2008 4:41 pm    Post subject: Re: Canola oil as Lamp Oil? Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

The_Virginian wrote:
or better yet make any shot glass a source of light with almost ANY Vegetable oil:

floating Menorah wicks

2/3rds of wick on top, 1/3 below oil for best light.

Even Cheaper:

Cheaper wicks
Yeah, those are pretty good.

I don't like them so much because they don't light up the oil and
aren't as easy to light because they sit low in the oil. But of course
a lot of that could be fixed by making better ones. A better floating
wick could be made using a wide ring of foam with a floating wick
supported in the center by wire. And so it's easy to light, I would
make it so part of the wire comes up so you could grab it without
getting your finger oily.

Also, there are some very simple ways to make floating wicks...

Making Floating Wicks
* Hammer & Nail
* Metal Bottlecap
* Wicking

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 04, 2008 1:28 pm    Post subject: Re: Canola oil as Lamp Oil? Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Steam Cannon: I will be trying both. I can get beeswax locally, but I am working on both because I am on an extremely limited budget and this site has been very helpful. Thanks for the info though. If I need anything more, I will contact you.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 17, 2008 2:09 am    Post subject: Re: Canola oil as Lamp Oil? Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

steam_cannon wrote:
Try salting your wick, that should fix the problem.



Hi Steam Cannon,

I tried the salting, but am finding that my wicks are still being consumed, and burning out withing 3 or so minutes.

Do you have a suggestion as to what to try next?
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 19, 2008 7:43 pm    Post subject: Re: Canola oil as Lamp Oil? Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

hermit wrote:
steam_cannon wrote:
Try salting your wick, that should fix the problem.



Hi Steam Cannon,

I tried the salting, but am finding that my wicks are still being
consumed, and burning out withing 3 or so minutes.

Do you have a suggestion as to what to try next?

Alright, there are a few things you could try...

1. More salt, I usually salt up wicking so it's crusty with salt and I've
heard before from people who didn't use enough salt have similar problems.

2. Make your own salted wick, like from a strip of cotton towel. It may be
that the wicking from the store falls apart around a certain
temperature range and all the salt in the world can't raise that. So
you might have better results with a home made wick.

3. Try a different vegetable oil, maybe canola oil and that wicking
just don't get together very well. It's difficult to try some different
oils, but that's a variable you might want to eliminate.

4. Try a different lamp, maybe the lamp you're using is a little odd
and reflects heat more so then other lamps. That's a slim possibility,
I'm just putting it out there.

I haven't had the problem you're having. But I have had people
have greater success with more salt and success when using
wicking that is fully dried after salting (oven dried). Also, I suppose
I could try it out with that particular style of lamp. Perhaps that kind
of lamp salting has less effect then I usually see.

But I have heard result similar to yours when people have just
washed a wick in dilute salt water and it didn't help much. So I'm
curious to know how much salt you're using, how you're drying it,
what kind of wick, how long do you make the wick, does it
completely go out, is there a timeable difference between salted
and unsalted wicking (as you make them)? There should be a
significant difference unless somethings not working and I'd like to
know what.


And ultimately for whatever reason my suggestion doesn't work,
post about that, a negative result is a result! Smile
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 19, 2008 7:52 pm    Post subject: Re: Canola oil as Lamp Oil? Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Any idea how a Canola fuel would work with a fiberglass wick? I had a nice classic kerosene lamp when I was younger that had a fiberglass wick, the thing never used wick unless you put it stupidly high.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 19, 2008 8:14 pm    Post subject: Re: Canola oil as Lamp Oil? Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Tanada wrote:
Any idea how a Canola fuel would work with a fiberglass wick? I had a
nice classic kerosene lamp when I was younger that had a fiberglass
wick, the thing never used wick unless you put it stupidly high.
Brilliant idea! Very Happy



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Fiberglass wicks are used in everything from outdoor patio torches to
designer oil lamps. Fiberglass being in-organic will out-last cotton
based wicks. Fiberglass is also used for environmental sampling
applications, passive lubrication of machine gears and fragrance
dispersion units. Some designs of fiberglass work great with the new
biofuels coming onto the market.
http://www.wickstore.com/fiberglass.html


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 19, 2008 8:17 pm    Post subject: Re: Canola oil as Lamp Oil? Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

I was told by a lamp dealer that all he uses is Odorless/Sulfur Free Paint Thinner that you can pick up at Home Depot for REALLY cheap compared to lamp oil. I tried it in the 4 lamps that I have including the hurricane style, and it works perfectly. It even make a brighter light!

Arsenal.

Oh and the wick lasts longer as well.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 19, 2008 9:17 pm    Post subject: Re: Canola oil as Lamp Oil? Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Tanada wrote:
Any idea how a Canola fuel would work with a fiberglass wick? I had a nice classic kerosene lamp when I was younger that had a fiberglass wick, the thing never used wick unless you put it stupidly high.



Ahhh.. The great things we had when we were young, but often discarded in favor of something "newer" and "better".

Whatever happened to your lamp?
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 20, 2008 5:48 am    Post subject: Re: Canola oil as Lamp Oil? Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

hermit wrote:
Tanada wrote:
Any idea how a Canola fuel would work with a fiberglass wick? I had a nice classic kerosene lamp when I was younger that had a fiberglass wick, the thing never used wick unless you put it stupidly high.



Ahhh.. The great things we had when we were young, but often discarded in favor of something "newer" and "better".

Whatever happened to your lamp?


It came up missing after one of the many moves of my life and I never got around to replacing it. The thing was great, you could set it in the center of the table and comfortably read by its light, or have dinner and it was first rate during winter power outages, light and a bonus heat at the same time to warm by after feeding the chickens.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 20, 2008 5:57 am    Post subject: Re: Canola oil as Lamp Oil? Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Arsenal wrote:
I was told by a lamp dealer that all he uses is Odorless/Sulfur Free Paint Thinner that you can pick up at Home Depot for REALLY cheap compared to lamp oil. I tried it in the 4 lamps that I have including the hurricane style, and it works perfectly. It even make a brighter light!

Arsenal.

Oh and the wick lasts longer as well.


Sounds like ye ol "burning fuild" from the 1800's.

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any volatile illuminating oil, as the lighter petroleums (naphtha, benzine), or oil of turpentine (camphine), but esp. a mixture of the latter with alcohol.


Better just stick with kerosene.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 28, 2008 3:44 pm    Post subject: Re: Canola oil as Lamp Oil? Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

I used to make candles as a kid. We would use kite string for the wick, melt some paraffin wax (canning wax) break off a crayon and mix it in for coloring. We would fill beer cans (that’s cool for a teenager in his room if the parents don't mind) that we collected from the ditches and cut off the tops and light bulbs (break off the glass when the wax solidifies and you have a candle shaped like a light bulb) and just poured the wax into little glass candle holders (dollar store). It was cheap entertainment and our rooms were cool. Occasionally my friend would steal his sisters lilac perfume it was like a chapstick type of fragrance and melt it into the wax, it worked great for scented candles.
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