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alokin
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 19, 2008 9:27 pm    Post subject: charcoal and woodash and other fertilizers? Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

I saw charcoal in the supermarket - could it be used as a fertilizer in the garden, and what elements are in?
And how about using wood ash of the public BBQ's?
How much would you use in hand fulls per m˛?
I make always stink brew but without a lid - do nutritients go out with the odour? I use Borage and to a lesser extend Comfrey, does anyone know which nutritients do these plants bring?

They sell a worm farm at BUnnings and the government pays half of it. I wonder if a worm farm produces more or better fertilizer than our usual compost bin and if we would be better off constructing something ourselves.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 19, 2008 9:43 pm    Post subject: Re: charcoal and woodash and other fertilizers? Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

alokin wrote:
I saw charcoal in the supermarket - could it be used as a fertilizer in the garden, and what elements are in?
And how about using wood ash of the public BBQ's?
How much would you use in hand fulls per m˛?
I make always stink brew but without a lid - do nutritients go out with the odour? I use Borage and to a lesser extend Comfrey, does anyone know which nutritients do these plants bring?

They sell a worm farm at BUnnings and the government pays half of it. I wonder if a worm farm produces more or better fertilizer than our usual compost bin and if we would be better off constructing something ourselves.


I think the best is worms in compost.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 19, 2008 10:29 pm    Post subject: Re: charcoal and woodash and other fertilizers? Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Wood ash is a poor fertilizer. It can reduce soil acidity though it is very fast release and tends to burn plants.

Cooking charcoal is produced at temperatures which volatilize much of the NPK value in wood, and breaks down the cell structure which otherwise enhances its nutrient retention capacity.

Charcoal can be a very good soil building agent for low quality, carbon deficient soils, and it remains in the soil far longer than compost. The best charcoal is produced in a traditional fashion: slowly at low temperatures. Commercial processes use higher temperatures to speed up the process.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 20, 2008 2:05 am    Post subject: Re: charcoal and woodash and other fertilizers? Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Look up Terra Preta.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 20, 2008 5:08 am    Post subject: Re: charcoal and woodash and other fertilizers? Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

alokin wrote:
I saw charcoal in the supermarket - could it be used as a fertilizer in the garden, and what elements are in?


Charcoal briquettes contain other stuff than wood, such as a binder, and some contain coal as well. I would prefer not to use briquette ashes as fertilizer, myself.

Pure hardwood ashes from a woodstove, OTOH, I do add to the compost pile, or sprinkle a bit around perennials that like a sweet soil.

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 20, 2008 5:31 am    Post subject: Re: charcoal and woodash and other fertilizers? Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Wood ashes from hardwood is an excellent fertilizer and can help sweeten the soil and reduce acidity. I've been using it for years. I usually put a light dusting on the soil in the autumn when I'm putting my garden beds up for the winter. I then mulch over top to soften the harshness of winter.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 20, 2008 6:03 am    Post subject: Re: charcoal and woodash and other fertilizers? Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Many Vermont towns have a potash road where in colonial times maple ashes were leached and the leachate boiled down to make potash. U.S. Patent Number 1 was issued to a Vermonter for an improved process that increased yields and purity of the product.
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