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vampyregirl
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 15, 2008 1:58 am    Post subject: Is this true? Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

I have heard that Obama has a rather extreme Ethanol agenda. That he proposes at some point banning any new cars that can't run on E85 or at least a high ethanol content. Is that true or just a bullshit political rumor?
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 15, 2008 2:38 am    Post subject: Re: Is this true? Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Being that its about Obama I'd say bullshit.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 15, 2008 9:42 am    Post subject: Re: Is this true? Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

He is a huge supporter of E85. This is what his campaign says about biofuels..

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Mandate All New Vehicles are Flexible Fuel Vehicles Sustainably‐produced biofuels can create jobs, protect the environment and help end oil addiction – but only if Americans drive cars that will take such fuels. Obama will work with Congress and auto companies to ensure that all new vehicles have FFV capability – the capability by the end of his first term in office.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 15, 2008 11:44 am    Post subject: Re: Is this true? Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

100% flex fuel is pointless. There is not enough food to feed all cars and their drivers.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 18, 2008 10:40 am    Post subject: Re: Is this true? Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

If nobody eats, eventually nobody will have to drive. Starve the masses out of their cars, that seems like a very good plan to me.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 18, 2008 11:03 am    Post subject: Re: Is this true? Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Bad policy, that one. Will starve people elsewhere before starving car at home.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 18, 2008 11:35 am    Post subject: Re: Is this true? Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

vampyregirl wrote:
I have heard that Obama has a rather extreme Ethanol agenda. That he proposes at some point banning any new cars that can't run on E85 or at least a high ethanol content. Is that true or just a bullshit political rumor?


You could read Obama's energy plan instead of wondering about rumors.

http://my.barackobama.com/page/content/newenergy


The internet is a wonderful thing. You can look stuff up - sometimes even facts!
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 18, 2008 11:51 am    Post subject: Re: Is this true? Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

There is no shortage of biofuel.

The Flexfuel vehicles Obama is mandating will also run on soylent green.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 18, 2008 11:53 am    Post subject: Re: Is this true? Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Ludi wrote:

You could read Obama's energy plan instead of wondering about rumors.

http://my.barackobama.com/page/content/newenergy


The internet is a wonderful thing. You can look stuff up - sometimes even facts!


Ludi: VPG is like the forum’s untrained pet. She leaves droppings of disinformation all over and lets others clean up after her. Don’t expect her to even visit any thread she has started.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 18, 2008 12:17 pm    Post subject: Re: Is this true? Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Plantagenet wrote:
There is no shortage of biofuel.

The Flexfuel vehicles Obama is mandating will also run on soylent green.



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 19, 2008 10:58 pm    Post subject: Re: Is this true? Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

lper100km wrote:
Ludi wrote:

You could read Obama's energy plan instead of wondering about rumors.

http://my.barackobama.com/page/content/newenergy


The internet is a wonderful thing. You can look stuff up - sometimes even facts!


Ludi: VPG is like the forum’s untrained pet. She leaves droppings of disinformation all over and lets others clean up after her. Don’t expect her to even visit any thread she has started.


lper100km you have never been able to refute anything i've said so go crawl back in your closet and play with your dick little boy.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 22, 2008 9:46 am    Post subject: Re: Is this true? Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

vampyregirl wrote:
lper100km you have never been able to refute anything i've said

It's not clear that you've said anything at all.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 22, 2008 11:26 am    Post subject: Re: Is this true? Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

VPG: What a fine display of juvenile petulance! You get called on your trolling behaviour and you can’t handle it. You must be a spoilt teenager.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 22, 2008 11:28 am    Post subject: Re: Is this true? Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Gerben wrote:
100% flex fuel is pointless. There is not enough food to feed all cars and their drivers.


It doesn't hurt to have cars at least be able to run ethanol.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 26, 2008 6:08 pm    Post subject: Re: Is this true? Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

mos6507 wrote:
Gerben wrote:
100% flex fuel is pointless. There is not enough food to feed all cars and their drivers.


It doesn't hurt to have cars at least be able to run ethanol.


Or biodiesel, in case there's a diesel engine under the hood. These fuels can't substitute oil in order to provide current traffic patterns, but they can provide just enough to keep a modicum or transportation, perhaps even enough to face the downturn. The problem is they can be made out of edible plants, and that's bad, or they can be made out of inedible plants, but taking farming space that could have had food crops.

I guess both (food and transportation) are necessary, but producing for food must take priority. But, in short, not it doesn't hurt vehicles can run on biofuels.
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