How doomerish are you?

TheDude · Posted: Sun Aug 24, 2008 6:51 am Post subject: Re: How doomerish are you?

Didn't care for the options either. These things need to be balanced, otherwise it's just pushing a line. You may as well make it a joke in that case - [Poll] "How many of your family members will be eaten by zombies?" Very Happy

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JustaGirl · Posted: Sun Aug 24, 2008 2:16 pm Post subject: Re: How doomerish are you?

I see the 2nd & 3rd options going on simultaneously around the world. The ELM theory has me very worried and then there's the report of China consuming ALL coal exports within 4-6 years Shocked

That could very well cause a fast crash for countries that import coal to burn for electricity. Probably more resources wars as well.

killJOY · Fission Joined: Feb 21, 2005 Posts: 2510 Location: ^NNE^

The second and third options could be one and the same.

Given that I've been in preps since 2003, it's really sad that, at this point, I just don't know what to do.
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Lumpy · Posted: Sun Aug 24, 2008 4:55 pm Post subject: Re: How doomerish are you?

This is a difficult poll for one main reason -- what do you mean by "the next generation"?

Many people in our (husband and mine) generation have parents still living. But we also have grown children, nearly grown children, and toddler & pre-school grandchildren. Are you talking about the little kids? Or unborn but soon to be born kids? (They are really of the same generation.) I assumed for the sake of my response that you were speaking of that generation.

My answer is that our grandkids' and the rest of their generation's survival will be 100% dependent on preps made by us, and by their parents.

Unfortunately, even though they have been given the opportunity (by us) to move to our farm and prepare along with us (we just really got started big time 3 years ago), the parents of the grandkids have rejected the way of life that requires hard work on the farm, plus working off the farm to earn money while they still can.

We foresee being able to feed ourselves here at about 90% from what we grow by end of harvest season, 2010. By then, it may be like during the Great Depression -- grandkids sent to live on the farm with grandparents, while parents tried to find work wherever they could. We will take in our grandsons. So none of them will be in the die-off from starvation, we believe. As to their parents .... well, they are prime candidates for the die-off, as the world they insist on living in and the lives they insist on living becoming completely unsustainable.

I guess that means DOOM, here -- I'm talking about my kids being dead within the next 10 years ... but the NEXT GENERATION (grandkids) -- ours have a good shot at making it. And so do the others of their generation that are the grandkids and/or kids of other people making serious preps - like us.

(I picked the middle answer.)

Lumpy
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alokin · Intermediate Crude Joined: Aug 24, 2007 Posts: 885

Lumpy, you're really good prepared. I guess most of us (and me) think we will survive, but we are not prepared in that manner.
The next generation thing - yes it depends weather you have no kids, small or big ones or even grandkids.
These questions actually came into my mind because at the moment everything seems to halt, oil price down, banks still alive and live just goes on.
Most people forget about what happened some month ago until the next bang. I myself sometimes think if all these doomer theories are pure vain? My brain says no, but my ambiance says no everything's fine.

bl00k · Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2008 6:31 am Post subject: Re: How doomerish are you?

I'm not a doomer and never will be. I think it's utterly and totally useless to be talking about a 'total collapse of society'. Apart from what actually happens, it's a waste of time. I will talk about what has happened and perhaps make conservative predictions of the future. But telling other people there will be a dieoff and most people will die is, in my humble opinion, a load of horse sh*t even though i'm aware of possible implications of rapid oil production decline. It doesnt do any good, it only alienates people and even if people will accept it as truth, you'll only accomplish inaction or worse.

I'll stay positive and optimistic, all my life. The end will *always* be the same: death.
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Lumpy · Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2008 7:17 am Post subject: Re: How doomerish are you?

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davep · Expert Joined: Jun 21, 2006 Posts: 1405 Location: Europe

I chose Industrial society won't survive, lots will die, but live goes on

The lots will die bit depends on what we collectively do to mitigate things, but given the late stage of the game, I don't hold out much hope.
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Revi · Fusion Joined: Apr 25, 2005 Posts: 3537 Location: Maine

I like to think that we can prepare for this thing, but I am getting doomier every day.

I don't think we can plan more than a year or two into the future really.

Here it is, right on schedule, peak oil.
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Newfie · Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2008 4:48 pm Post subject: Re: How doomerish are you?