Like the illusion of Wall Street, with its vast and powerful investment banks, now shuttered, China too is an illusion perpetuated by the Globalists that gave us the 15,000 mile Caesar salad, poisoned cat food and lead based paint on babies' pacifiers. Like the illusion that money would come from thin air to always push housing prices higher, China has spent a generation pursuing its illusion. Pursuing an unattainable dream to be like the West, while 6000 years of its carefully shepherded top soil blows into the sea.
Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2008 3:44 am Post subject: Re: the crash course
Excellent presentation, many thanks.
Now,... where's the rope so I can tie my family down and force them to watch it, they're still putting the price rise down to speculators!!
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Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2008 6:59 am Post subject: Re: the crash course
I'm really enjoying all chapters and already forwarded the link to several friends. I hope 1 or 2 of them will get the message.
One thing has stuck with me: Chris says the next 20 years will be nothing like the last 20 years. With the utmost respect to Chris, but none of my 20 years, or all my rolling 20 years looked alike. When I look at the last 20 years ... I lived in 3 continents, 6 countries, a dozen cities and states, had 8-10 jobs, owned 6 vehicles, was single, married, divorced and married again, had 4-5 (minor) surgeries, made money, been at the edge of bankrupcy, had a dog, dog died, etc, and not to mention external events such as Andrew, 9/11, Katrina, tsunami, etc. I can go back to every year and say, "what a year!". Perhaps what is constant in my life is the constant changes.
I'm not saying, "poor me, my dog died", because in the great scheme of things that's not even a bump in the road, rather, just sharing that I've been through glory and tragedy, through abundance and scarcity. Using Chris' words, it's a belief that indeed the next 20 years will be tough ... for those who are unprepared and who have lived in a bubble.
Please comment and share. Please let me know if your last 20 years were essentially uneventful.
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Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2008 5:06 pm Post subject: Re: the crash course
One utterly astonishing bit of information in Chris' video is the assertion that 1 gallon of gas is the equivalent of $7,500 worth of labor (@$15/hr).
IOW, we've been paying $4 for something that yields an equivalent return of $7,500. Oil is nothing short of magic, and clearly could never be replaced.
Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2008 4:04 pm Post subject: Re: the crash course
Jibberjabber wrote:
Fantastic vids. Just watched them all.
I asked my gran about the 70's last week to get an idea what the next year or two is going to be like. Guess i should have been asking about the 30's
And it sounds like we will need to come up with some really good superlitives, cos this one is going to be spectacular
Yeah I asked my grandma about the 70's and she said she didn't remember much because she was busy raising kids, but that she did think it is much worse now because at least back then she could dig in the couch cushins and use the change to go buy bread and milk, but now that change wouldn't be half as much needed to buy a loaf of bread and a gallon of milk.
Great link btw, it really helped me put things in perspective.
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Posted: Tue Sep 02, 2008 10:37 pm Post subject: Re: the crash course
I've watched every single part and the whole series is amazing. Quite possibly THE best intro to this stuff that I've ever seen. _________________ I tread lightly as I can on the Earth.
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Posted: Thu Sep 04, 2008 7:03 am Post subject: Re: the crash course
Excellent course. The link should be compulsory!
but
Jibberjabber wrote:
Fantastic vids. Just watched them all.
I asked my gran about the 70's last week to get an idea what the next year or two is going to be like. Guess i should have been asking about the 30's
And it sounds like we will need to come up with some really good superlitives, cos this one is going to be spectacular
the 70's
FFS I thought we were still in them!!
Seriously though my Father-in-law (who basically thinks I'm bonkers) commented on Alastair Darling's "Worst crisis in 60 years" saying; 'but thats a stupid thing to say, my god we had rationing then, it was just after the war!'
My response of simply "Exactly"! left him bemused and muttering as he walked awy! _________________ Live, Love, Learn, Leave Legacy.....oh and have a Laugh while you're doing it!
Posted: Thu Sep 04, 2008 9:22 am Post subject: Re: the crash course
Excellent. I've only watched video #6 so far, but that was a great explanation of inflation. So what happens to employees/employers during hyper inflation? Do they start paying more? Or do wages stay the same and you are SOL? If the dollar crashes, do people stop going to work?
Posted: Sun Sep 07, 2008 2:58 pm Post subject: Re: the crash course
I watched it all. This is all so surreal. I don't remember being born. I feel as if I have always been alive, though I know that is not the case. The reality is my life is nothing more than a snap shot when aligned with history. I was born in 66, shortly after Nixon did away with the gold standard, and up went the exponential growth(=national debt). Life was suppose to just keep on going as it always has. But this life I now live is one nobody before me, or after me will get to live. And that is not open for debate. My 14 year old son watched it with me. When I asked him what he thought he said, "you are in so much trouble." I corrected him to include himself in the equation. The only logical response to this is to get drunk. _________________ We are so screwed.
Posted: Sun Sep 07, 2008 3:12 pm Post subject: Re: the crash course
yeth i agreee
Buggy wrote:
I watched it all. This is all so surreal. I don't remember being born. I feel as if I have always been alive, though I know that is not the case. The reality is my life is nothing more than a snap shot when aligned with history. I was born in 66, shortly after Nixon did away with the gold standard, and up went the exponential growth(=national debt). Life was suppose to just keep on going as it always has. But this life I now live is one nobody before me, or after me will get to live. And that is not open for debate. My 14 year old son watched it with me. When I asked him what he thought he said, "you are in so much trouble." I corrected him to include himself in the equation. The only logical response to this is to get drunk.
_________________ Live, Love, Learn, Leave Legacy.....oh and have a Laugh while you're doing it!
Posted: Sun Sep 07, 2008 3:29 pm Post subject: Re: the crash course
Quinny wrote:
yeth i agreee
Buggy wrote:
I watched it all. This is all so surreal. I don't remember being born. I feel as if I have always been alive, though I know that is not the case. The reality is my life is nothing more than a snap shot when aligned with history. I was born in 66, shortly after Nixon did away with the gold standard, and up went the exponential growth(=national debt). Life was suppose to just keep on going as it always has. But this life I now live is one nobody before me, or after me will get to live. And that is not open for debate. My 14 year old son watched it with me. When I asked him what he thought he said, "you are in so much trouble." I corrected him to include himself in the equation. The only logical response to this is to get drunk.
hee hee hee, *hick* _________________ We are so screwed.
Posted: Sun Sep 07, 2008 6:44 pm Post subject: Re: the crash course
I watched chapter 17 (so far) and it was a very good video.
I wasn't expecting it to be, I kind of thought it might be another one of those "this is peak oil basics" but was pleasantly surprised.
I was semi-conscious in the 70's and think it was much worse then. We had price freezes, shortages and stagflation when we didn't even know that stagflation was possible.
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Posted: Mon Sep 08, 2008 6:29 am Post subject: Re: the crash course
Globalization is the only thing that is preventing a repeat of the 1970s right now. The economic tailwind of exploiting poor countries has helped take the sting out of high energy prices to some extent.
But globalization is a one-time expansion, and unfortunately it is also going to badly aggravate the peak oil problem over the next 5-10 years as Chindia start their strip shopping center buildout.
It will, however, be an incredibly interesting time to be alive. _________________
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