Like the illusion of Wall Street, with its vast and powerful investment banks, now shuttered, China too is an illusion perpetuated by the Globalists that gave us the 15,000 mile Caesar salad, poisoned cat food and lead based paint on babies' pacifiers. Like the illusion that money would come from thin air to always push housing prices higher, China has spent a generation pursuing its illusion. Pursuing an unattainable dream to be like the West, while 6000 years of its carefully shepherded top soil blows into the sea.
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Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2008 10:03 am Post subject: Re: Cold War heats up with a vengence
Reuters is now on it, but it looks like they got their info straight from Georgian Propaganda Ministry. Complete with accusations of South Ossetia "planning a provocation" and contradictory claims of the village being both in Georgia, and not in Georgia but considered by Georgia as Georgian territory. Heck, Georgia considers all of South Ossetia to be Georgian territory.
and this lovely quote:
"According to our information, South Ossetian militias want to take this village. Our forces got the order not to shoot, but if Ossetians start shooting they will have to return fire," Kakha Lomaia, Secretary of Georgia's National Security Council, told Reuters.
Yep, bet they want Russia to attack so they can spread all those bodies they have on ice all over town and claim an unprovoked Russian massacre.
If I were Russia, I'ld go take Tiblisi, then say, "Wanna trade?" _________________ In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act. - George Orwell
It riles them to believe that you perceive the webs they weave. - Moody Blues
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Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2008 10:39 am Post subject: Re: Cold War heats up with a vengence
Dick Cheney to Visit Georgia
U.S. Vice President, Dick Cheney, will visit Georgia next week, the White House said on August 25.
The visit will be part of the trip, which also includes Azerbaijan, Ukraine and Italy, starting on September 2.
“The president felt it was important to have the vice president consult with allies in the region on our common security interests,” White House spokesman Tony Fratto said. link _________________ In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act. - George Orwell
It riles them to believe that you perceive the webs they weave. - Moody Blues
Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2008 11:36 am Post subject: Re: Cold War heats up with a vengence
Cid_Yama wrote:
It really does look like Georgia is trying to stage some event to justify US action. Is Bush really that stupid that he would actually order US assets to fire on Russian troops in Georgia? That's just insane.
Somehow I begin to *wish* him to proceed with that.
Then something very interesting will begin to go on.
Probably current NATO forces on Black Sea would be wiped out within less than an hour.
Then what? I only wonder when tactical nukes would be used first?
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Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2008 11:48 am Post subject: Re: Cold War heats up with a vengence
EnergyUnlimited wrote:
Cid_Yama wrote:
It really does look like Georgia is trying to stage some event to justify US action. Is Bush really that stupid that he would actually order US assets to fire on Russian troops in Georgia? That's just insane.
Somehow I begin to *wish* him to proceed with that.Then something very interesting will begin to go on. Probably current NATO forces on Black Sea would be wiped out within less than an hour. Then what?
The other 6 billion of us over the next half hour. _________________ I can has cheezburger?
Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2008 12:03 pm Post subject: Re: Cold War heats up with a vengence
It is not going to be a purely military confrontation. There has to be a media angle to it to rally the gullible western masses. So 100% for sure that the CIA and its Georgian tools are busy creating "evidence" of Russian "brutality". This evidence is most likely something along the lines of a whole Georgian village in South Ossetia with its inhabitants slaughtered. This stinks of Racak.
Russia should surround the Georgian forces in the village that they occupy and send continuous TV images of the action as they drive them out.
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Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2008 12:52 pm Post subject: Re: Cold War heats up with a vengence
Makes me think of this quote by Fred Thompson playing Admiral Josh Painter in Hunt for Red October: "This business will get out of control. It will get out of control and we'll be lucky to live through it." _________________ "RRrrruuuunnnn!!!" ~Apocalypto
Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2008 4:28 pm Post subject: Re: Cold War heats up with a vengence
EnergyUnlimited wrote:
Cid_Yama wrote:
It really does look like Georgia is trying to stage some event to justify US action. Is Bush really that stupid that he would actually order US assets to fire on Russian troops in Georgia? That's just insane.
Somehow I begin to *wish* him to proceed with that. Then something very interesting will begin to go on. Probably current NATO forces on Black Sea would be wiped out within less than an hour. Then what? I only wonder when tactical nukes would be used first?
Its an interesting thought game, but that you'd actually want to see it happen in real life?
There is this old game for the Amiga system and probably many others, called Nuclear War, maybe you should indulge for an hour or two, cool off and then come back.
Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2008 5:33 pm Post subject: Re: Cold War heats up with a vengence
phaeryen wrote:
There is this old game for the Amiga system and probably many others, called Nuclear War, maybe you should indulge for an hour or two, cool off and then come back.
cannot get a hold of the game. but from your own observation, in that game, does a player usually immediately go for unrestrained destruction of enemy forces and territories once he lost a small portion of his offensive force to enemy nuclear weapons?
Russia played a trump card in its strategic poker game with the West yesterday by threatening to suspend an agreement allowing Nato to take supplies and equipment to Afghanistan through Russia and Central Asia.
The agreement was struck at a Nato summit in April to provide an alternative supply route to the road between the Afghan capital and the Pakistani border, which has come under attack from militants on both sides of the frontier this year.
Zamir Kabulov, the Russian Ambassador to Afghanistan, told The Times in an interview that he believed the deal was no longer valid because Russia suspended military cooperation with Nato last week over its support for Georgia.
Asked if the move by Russia invalidated the agreement, he said: “Of course. Why not? If there is a suspension of military cooperation, this is military cooperation.”
_________________ “It does not do to leave a live dragon out of your calculations, if you live near him.”
J.R.R. Tolkien
"The time has come for men to act like men; and for women, well, to act a lot more like men."
-Ma Cur
Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2008 7:32 pm Post subject: Re: Cold War heats up with a vengence
This is only a small taste of what you get for supporting butcher Saakashvili before and after his sneak attack on citizens of the Russian Federation. To think that people in Russia actually sympathized with the US after 9/11. You just staged a similar crime, you f*cks.
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Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2008 8:30 pm Post subject: Re: Cold War heats up with a vengence
dissident wrote:
This is only a small taste of what you get for supporting butcher Saakashvili before and after his sneak attack on citizens of the Russian Federation. To think that people in Russia actually sympathized with the US after 9/11. You just staged a similar crime, you f*cks.
Then it was not a very successful sneak attack since a) the Russians had pooled troops where they needed them to be ready to respond and b) the Georgians never blew up the damn tunnel that all of the troops and tanks came through.
I really do not understand b. why not just blow up the tunnel? _________________ “It does not do to leave a live dragon out of your calculations, if you live near him.”
J.R.R. Tolkien
"The time has come for men to act like men; and for women, well, to act a lot more like men."
-Ma Cur
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Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2008 9:49 pm Post subject: Re: Cold War heats up with a vengence
Russia withdraws bid for WTO membership
Prime Minister Vladimir Putin yesterday said Russia sees no advantages to World Trade Organisation (WTO) membership and should freeze some agreements made during entry talks in a sign Moscow is pulling away from the West after its war in Georgia.
Putin, quoted by Russian news agencies during a government meeting, said Russia's economy would incur a heavy burden in meeting WTO membership requirements and that some of these demands were against the country's interests.
"Judging by the rhetoric of the last few days, it seems things are moving toward a sharp confrontation between Russia and practically the whole of the rest of the world," Vladimir Osakovsky, an analyst at UniCredit, said.
"That has every chance of spilling out into real action from both sides. Perhaps the halting of the WTO accession process could be the first real step, a real consequence of the war," he added.
link _________________ In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act. - George Orwell
It riles them to believe that you perceive the webs they weave. - Moody Blues
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