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PostPosted: Tue Aug 26, 2008 1:21 am    Post subject: "Everything's Fine" letter from my bank today . . Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

I consider it a very bad sign - a VERY bad sign - that my main bank felt it prudent to send out a letter to all of its clients today indicating that, "we're in fine shape", and "no FDIC insured depositor has ever lost money."

WTF is that?

It's the same damn thing as my wife coming up to me and saying, "I just want you to know dear, I haven't cheated on you and you have no reason to worry."

DAMN!
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 26, 2008 3:35 am    Post subject: Re: "Everything's Fine" letter from my bank today Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

and the name of your bank is ? Twisted Evil
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 26, 2008 4:03 am    Post subject: Re: "Everything's Fine" letter from my bank today Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Empty your Bank Account TOMORROW.

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 26, 2008 4:51 am    Post subject: Re: "Everything's Fine" letter from my bank today Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

"Never believe anything until it has been officially denied."--Claud Cockburn
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 26, 2008 5:03 am    Post subject: Re: "Everything's Fine" letter from my bank today Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Oh, don't worry at all, after all a corporation or government would NEVER lie to you, would they... I mean really... DDT is good for the environment, Saddam had massive stockpiles of WMD, genetically engineered food is good for you, and there is no such thing as global warming. Really. Its OK to trust the banks, I mean after all they are all insured by the Federal Reserve Bank, which is actually a privately owned corporation and currently driving down the value of the Dollar on the international market.

Whether or not your bank was safe yesterday is one thing, but I feel that the real question is "Will it be safe tomorrow??"
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 26, 2008 5:25 am    Post subject: Re: "Everything's Fine" letter from my bank today Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

If you go to the bank today to withdraw all your money, I wonder if they will let you have it. There is another thread on the subject somewhere around here.

Small towns with few banks can present a problem if employer payroll accounts and the employee checking/savings account share the same bank. If your paycheck is no good and your deposits are on hold you get screwed from both ends.

When a plane is about to crash into the side of a mountain the captain will reassure the passengers that all is well to avoid a panic.

If all is well, why would the bank send out letters to everyone telling them all is well?

Your kid borrows your car. 2 hours later you get a call "Everything is fine dad, the car has great insurance, there is nothing to worry about."

Your wife calls you at the office, leaves a message with the secretary: "Everything is fine dear, we have great homeowners insurance, there is nothing to worry about."

I can smell the bullhsit from here.

Max out the ATM card if the bank is closed.
Be in line when the doors open.

I hear news like this, I invest in more stored food.
I think I will pick up extra today, after I stop at my bank.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 26, 2008 6:29 am    Post subject: Re: "Everything's Fine" letter from my bank today Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

I've got a ton of money in this bank. There is no way of withdrawing it all.

The bank was on the watch list of 100 banks compiled by some guy right after Indy Mac.

I'm not worried about the money being locked down for a while, and, as the 10th bank failure of the year, the FDIC would have the reserves, no problem, to open the bank on Monday.

But I will certainly set the gears in motion to move the money - the real risk is that Leh and WB decide to sh-t the bed on the same Friday, and we get a systemic convulsion.

It's just a huge hassle - lots of things tied to the account.

Read the letter yourself:
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 26, 2008 6:36 am    Post subject: Re: "Everything's Fine" letter from my bank today Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Cashmere wrote:
I've got a ton of money in this bank. There is no way of withdrawing it all.

The bank was on the watch list of 100 banks compiled by some guy right after Indy Mac.

I'm not worried about the money being locked down for a while, and, as the 10th bank failure of the year, the FDIC would have the reserves, no problem, to open the bank on Monday.

But I will certainly set the gears in motion to move the money - the real risk is that Leh and WB decide to sh-t the bed on the same Friday, and we get a systemic convulsion.

It's just a huge hassle - lots of things tied to the account.

Read the letter yourself: Scary Bank Letter


So, do smart highly educated "creeps" write these things?

Are most ppl really taht stupid?

Talk about a run-on-the-bank......... Razz
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 26, 2008 7:51 am    Post subject: Re: "Everything's Fine" letter from my bank today Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

1. They see a bank run as a possibility.
2. They are probably experiencing some large withdrawals.
3. They are concerned as they are probably not in the best position regarding their books.
4. They feel real concern.
5. They are prudently trying to manage perception and forestall any mass run on deposits.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 26, 2008 8:08 am    Post subject: Re: "Everything's Fine" letter from my bank today Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

At least they are covered by the FDIC. I am worried about our local bank, but what can I really do? I don't have much in there anyway.

I think it's time to get things we really need, because the bank system seems to be tanking and it may be difficult to buy things soon.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 26, 2008 8:20 am    Post subject: Re: "Everything's Fine" letter from my bank today Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Revi wrote:
I am worried about our local bank, but what can I really do?


Consult a Bank of branch near you...
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 26, 2008 8:27 am    Post subject: Re: "Everything's Fine" letter from my bank today Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Cashmere wrote:
I consider it a very bad sign - a VERY bad sign - that my main bank felt it prudent to send out a letter to all of its clients today indicating that, "we're in fine shape", and "no FDIC insured depositor has ever lost money."
WTF is that?
It's the same damn thing as my wife coming up to me and saying, "I just want you to know dear, I haven't cheated on you and you have no reason to worry." DAMN!

Unless you withdraw your money.

It is gone.

Really...read this: Whether it’s the Chinese Central Bank (BOC), the Fed, the ECB, and then all the other world financial institutions of every type, insurance companies, gigantic retirement funds, other banks, you name it, the present losses of capital to the world financial system is pervasive worldwide.
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Nobody will escape the wrath of this deleveraging, and that is why I call it Credit Crisis II. Credit Crisis I was only the preliminary round…Credit Crisis II is characterized by the realization that the gigantic losses of capital cannot be purged from the financial system, even with big public bailouts. And that this deleveraging cannot be stopped. There are too many interlinkages. And, without writing a book on this, the next victim when Credit Crisis II unfolds, will be massive world currency instability. This will make any of the banking and currency crises we have seen since WW2 look like child’s play. It is not clear when Credit Crisis II begins but it is threatening already.

This is happening now.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 26, 2008 8:30 am    Post subject: Re: "Everything's Fine" letter from my bank today Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Jotapay wrote:
5. They are prudently trying to manage perception and forestall any mass run on deposits.

Sending out such a letter seems counter to this goal, but I guess they are counting on most people being idiots.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 26, 2008 8:37 am    Post subject: Re: "Everything's Fine" letter from my bank today Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

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Jotapay wrote:
5. They are prudently trying to manage perception and forestall any mass run on deposits.
Sending out such a letter seems counter to this goal, but I guess they are counting on most people being idiots.

At my old corporation (a financial services company), every person who was fired elicited an "Person-x decided to pursue other opportunities outside the company. We wish them luck," email sent to everyone in the entire company. Every single person who quit on their own never produced such an an email. Everyone knew about the hypocrisy. It is so prevalent in fact, there is a Dilbert comic strip about it.

The people who run these finance companies are incredibly arrogant and think the rest of us are really, really stupid. The owners of this bank are putting off some strong fear pheromones with this letter.


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 26, 2008 8:37 am    Post subject: Re: "Everything's Fine" letter from my bank today Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Shannymara wrote:
Sending out such a letter seems counter to this goal...

Denial of rumor = truth
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