Is America going to have a Revolution?

johhnytrash · Tar Sands Joined: May 25, 2008 Posts: 24

'Texas is a whole 'nother country' is right. Texas' infrastructure has always been designed to be independent from the rest of the nation's. If the country breaks down, Texas will be able to keep it together longer then most other states. Texas took the brunt of the Katrina refugees and was able to handle the load. When America breaks up, Texas will be it's own nation.

socrates1fan · Heavy Crude Joined: Jun 04, 2008 Posts: 284

I think there are a few regions of the US that could very easily break off and do quiet well.
1) Great Plains: Enough land to farm food for their populations(Which arent as large as the other regions) and they have strong dense cities such as KC and maybe STL(But it is debatable whether or not STL is in the great plains or midwest).
2) Texas: The region has enough food to feed its current population and has enough resources to over all maintain a decent way of life. I'm not sure if over all the condition of groups other than white protestants would be living so well but over all it could economically manage.
3) Great Lake states: The great lake states are rich in resources and have a very sophisticated rail network. Many of the towns were designed and populated before sprawl and the auto and could manage very well. The rivers and lakes also allow good trade routes.

I don't see how regions like the West Coast, New England, or the SouthEast could sustain their current populations without imports from the regions mentioned above. As great as they are, they depend heavily on the production of other regions.

gnm

joelcolorado · Intermediate Crude Joined: May 25, 2008 Posts: 683

You only have to look back to the early 1800's to see where ppl can survive. Sure wasnt in the desert southwest.

joelcolorado · Intermediate Crude Joined: May 25, 2008 Posts: 683

and unless you own those minerals, i think the owners will make the decision about where to sell them. I would bet they go to the highest bidder not some NM entitiy.

gnm

Micki

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joelcolorado · Intermediate Crude Joined: May 25, 2008 Posts: 683

Heck. I give em all a big fat ZERO for not fixing this mess. Funnyhow a man can go to washington, make $200k a year and go home a multimillionare.

joelcolorado · Intermediate Crude Joined: May 25, 2008 Posts: 683

ANTONY:
Blood and destruction shall be so in use
And dreadful objects so familiar
That mothers shall but smile when they behold
Their infants quarter'd with the hands of war;
All pity choked with custom of fell deeds:
And Caesar's spirit, ranging for revenge,
With Ate by his side come hot from hell,
Shall in these confines with a monarch's voice
Cry 'Havoc,' and let slip the dogs of war;
That this foul deed shall smell above the earth
With carrion men, groaning for burial.

allenwrench · Intermediate Crude Joined: Apr 23, 2008 Posts: 893

Our imperfect human leaders make mistakes and we citizens have little or no recourse to fix those mistakes. That is why revolutions come about for change. But we must be careful about what we are revolting against, as what we replace it with may be worse than what we have destroyed.

BTW, if and when America is ready for a revolt over the travesty of American political system, all you have to do is to follow the lead of our politicians and do nothing. America can be shut down by the citizens - just by doing nothing.

When it comes down to it, we are dependent on strong government to keep the invading armies at bay. But everyday life is NOT dependent on the politicians flapping their jaws and blowing hot air out their ass. What we are dependent on is each other and our cooperation at making life livable from the lowest crap shoveler and up the ladder to the highest doctor or airline pilot.

In the end, I choose a democracy of sorts and when the democracy fails them replace it with bits and pieces of socialized areas, but all the while trying to keep the democratic foundation and as much personal freedoms in force best we can.

But coming back to reality this gives a glimpse of how engaged the citizens of the US of A are: link

lets look at another forum with lots of traffic...except when it comes to activism: link

Well, maybe next time around the country would be more energized. Of course this presupposes we have the gas and the planes will still be flying so we can get to the conventions to voice our disgust about this putrid mess we call the American political system.
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GASMON

seahorse2 · Expert Joined: Oct 18, 2004 Posts: 1966

Its encouraging to see Americans finally getting pissed off and openly calling for revolution.

Micki

Yes, grassroots need to start making noice as their elect representatives won't.
I am however thinking that a breakup of the states would be a nicer way of going than armed uprising. Then of course there may still be a need to do some purging of corrupt politicians but I suspect this would be easier after a breakup.

Does anyone know what happened to....was it Oklahoma that was planning to breakout and already had it go through several seatings in the state senate?
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The American public is already pretty revolting. I don't think they need to do anything.
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