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PostPosted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 5:00 am    Post subject: NBC is refusing to run one of Picken's strongest ads Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 5:12 am    Post subject: Re: NBC is refusing to run one of Picken's strongest ads Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

You'd think that the parent company of NBC, GE, would be willing to run these ads for a discount since they are pretty big into the wind/solar field. They'd stand to make a lot of orders and thus money if the US gets on board with the Plan.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 5:57 am    Post subject: Re: NBC is refusing to run one of Picken's strongest ads Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

3aidlillahi wrote:
You'd think that the parent company of NBC, GE, would be willing to run these ads for a discount since they are pretty big into the wind/solar field. They'd stand to make a lot of orders and thus money if the US gets on board with the Plan.

The Greek philosophers knew that when passion rules the mind, that the only job left for reason is that of the subservient task to find cleaver ways to satisfy the passions. They called it "putting passion before reason."
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 6:34 am    Post subject: Re: NBC is refusing to run one of Picken's strongest ads Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

NBC - Controlled and run by Zionists.

Proposed Ad - Indirectly compliments Iran and makes them look pretty sane compared to an insane U.S., which is eating itself into an early death.
Solution - don't show donkey sh-t eating Americans an Ad that shows Iran in a good light.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 6:45 am    Post subject: Re: NBC is refusing to run one of Picken's strongest ads Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

allenwrench wrote:
The Greek philosophers knew that when passion rules the mind, that the only job left for reason is that of the subservient task to find cleaver ways to satisfy the passions. They called it "putting passion before reason."

Interesting. I guess putting passion before reason is the best strategy if energy is cheap, because it generates lots of jobs for people to satisfy oneanothers passions. But now that energy is expensive, reason will gain the upper hand again. The mechanism by which that is happening is called "demand destruction". The demand that is being destructed is after all the demand associated with satisfying frivolous passions.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 6:56 am    Post subject: Re: NBC is refusing to run one of Picken's strongest ads Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Scenes of normal daily life in Iran or any other future bombing target are not displayed on television.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 7:11 am    Post subject: Re: NBC is refusing to run one of Picken's strongest ads Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

NG should be used a a transportation fuel. It is one of its best and highest uses.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 8:20 am    Post subject: Re: NBC is refusing to run one of Picken's strongest ads Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

I don't have TV reception or broadband, so I haven't seen the ads.
But from all I've heard of them, one thing seems conspicuously absent. Anyone who has been paying attention for a while knows that Pickens is the world's richest Peak Oil awareness advocate. He has stated in numerous interviews over the last few years that he is convinced we will not exceed our current production of about 85 mbd.
But where in his multimillion dollar ad campaign has he tried to inform J6P about this? Is the idea of Peak Oil too scary for mass consumption?
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 8:37 am    Post subject: Re: NBC is refusing to run one of Picken's strongest ads Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

NeoPeasant wrote:
Is the idea of Peak Oil too scary for mass consumption?

The only well known figure talking about die-off is Ted Turner (who mentioned cannibalism within the context of global warming) and look what that got him.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 8:53 am    Post subject: Re: NBC is refusing to run one of Picken's strongest ads Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Pickens plan, as detailed by link, isn't a plan. It's an idea one could nearly write on the back of a matchbook cover.

There's some good specifics about some energy matters on his page, but there are virtually no details about the plan itself. Basically, all it states is it will cost one trillion, and we can build wind farms, transfer NG useage to power cars and reduce foreign oil. No energy amounts, no timeline, no mention why the page wants viewers to spread the word. Nothing about the possible problems or solutions in regard to any of it.

Presumably, the "plan" will require vast government mandates and/or financial giveaways.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 9:19 am    Post subject: Re: NBC is refusing to run one of Picken's strongest ads Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

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But where in his multimillion dollar ad campaign has he tried to inform J6P about this? Is the idea of Peak Oil too scary for mass consumption?

Because he can't make any money off of that. If this goes through, he'll make billions more from NG and wind-turbine sales. No reason to go about an advertising campaign talking about conservation.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 29, 2008 4:20 pm    Post subject: Re: NBC is refusing to run one of Picken's strongest ads Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Roccland wrote:
NG should be used a a transportation fuel. It is one of its best and highest uses.

Don't know all the details but... CNG is dangerous stuff. The above ground tanks I see are spread out over large areas. My fill station is 80 miles round trip away. And one bullet into it and a big boom goes off.

sorry can't figure out the hyper link thing...
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 29, 2008 5:05 pm    Post subject: Re: NBC is refusing to run one of Picken's strongest ads Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

allenwrench wrote:
Don't know all the details but... CNG is dangerous stuff. The above ground tanks I see are spread out over large areas. My fill station is 80 miles round trip away. And one bullet into it and a big boom goes off.

It's been used a lot in buses and a fair number of Hoda Civics. I used to see some CNG Civics driving around Southern California. Do you have any actual statistics for the number of "big booms" that have taken place? Have there been any at all?

"Explosive concerns with compressed natural gas used in vehicles are almost non-existent, due to the escaping nature of the gas, and the need to maintain concentrations between 5% and 15% to trigger explosions." LINK
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 29, 2008 6:44 pm    Post subject: Re: NBC is refusing to run one of Picken's strongest ads Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Cashmere wrote:
NBC -Controlled and run by Zionists.

"Zionists" AGAIN? It's the CHRISTIANS that screwed it up, not the Zionists! Its been all downhill ever since the Sermon on the Mount Smile
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 29, 2008 9:03 pm    Post subject: Re: NBC is refusing to run one of Picken's strongest ads Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

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You'd think that the parent company of NBC, GE, would be willing to run these ads for a discount since they are pretty big into the wind/solar field. They'd stand to make a lot of orders and thus money if the US gets on board with the Plan.

Censorship can be the most effective form of advertisement. It piques the interest more than any bland 15 second television spot ever could.
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