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Kristen
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 15, 2008 4:35 pm    Post subject: Re: Is there any reason to hope in these futureless times... Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Yeah, I can see all the points you guys have made. The problem with the future is it is a blank space waiting to be filled up. There's always some uncertainty involved and that tends to make me and others feel insecure about it, Its like your driving on a highway towards dark and threatening towers of clouds even though the sun is still pleasantly smiling through your windshield. Once you pass through the storm and look behind it in the rear view mirror it seems less timid. I can only hope for the best and that maybe one day I can look behind at these times with less anxiety
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 18, 2008 12:24 am    Post subject: Re: Is there any reason to hope in these futureless times... Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Kristen wrote:
Yeah, I can see all the points you guys have made. The problem with the future is it is a blank space waiting to be filled up. There's always some uncertainty involved and that tends to make me and others feel insecure about it, Its like your driving on a highway towards dark and threatening towers of clouds even though the sun is still pleasantly smiling through your windshield. Once you pass through the storm and look behind it in the rear view mirror it seems less timid. I can only hope for the best and that maybe one day I can look behind at these times with less anxiety


I don't think what I wrote sunk in Kristen.
"DO"...don't "think". "DO"...don't "feel".
When you've DONE enough..there will be no time for "what if's".
You'll have DONE it.

Now get DOING it!

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 18, 2008 1:20 am    Post subject: Re: Is there any reason to hope in these futureless times... Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

When I was a young man there was a saying I was fond of, "Live Fast, Die Young, Leave a Good Looking Corpse". Despite my best efforts crashing several motorcycles and taking far too many drugs and alcohol in a given evening, I managed to survive, and my corpse won't be all that good looking now.

Nobody here really knows exactly how its all going to play itself out. Without doubt though, tomorrow's world will look a little less like today than today did. What you can HOPE for is to figure out how you will negotiate the transition from today to tomorrow in your own life. This gives us all something to shoot for each day.

You do sound young though, so worst case scenario, Live Fast, Die Young, Leave a Good Looking Corpse.

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 29, 2008 8:18 am    Post subject: Re: Is there any reason to hope in these futureless times... Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

There is a hell of a lot of history ahead of us!
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 02, 2008 9:18 am    Post subject: Re: Is there any reason to hope in these futureless times... Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

blukatzen wrote:
Kristen wrote:
Yeah, I can see all the points you guys have made. The problem with the future is it is a blank space waiting to be filled up. There's always some uncertainty involved and that tends to make me and others feel insecure about it, Its like your driving on a highway towards dark and threatening towers of clouds even though the sun is still pleasantly smiling through your windshield. Once you pass through the storm and look behind it in the rear view mirror it seems less timid. I can only hope for the best and that maybe one day I can look behind at these times with less anxiety


I don't think what I wrote sunk in Kristen.
"DO"...don't "think". "DO"...don't "feel".
When you've DONE enough..there will be no time for "what if's".


You'll have DONE it.

Now get DOING it!

Blu


I would echo what Blu has said here, and add that we'll always have uncertainties, Kristen. None of us knows what hardships or surprises we'll have to face in our lifetime. That's true no matter what point in history your lifetime falls in. It's also true that some people live a relatively charmed life, while others have much hardship, but more often it's a combination of the two.

I agree with you, Kristen, that life is like a big, blank slate. However, you have much power to fill it in the way you'd like to. Think about what's important to you and work towards it; press on even when you feel a bit discouraged. Sure, there are things that are out of our control (collectively), but when you picture that blank slate and how differently it could be filled up depending on the person and his or her own beliefs/efforts, well, there's a lot of room for variance, isn't there?

Peace, WildRose.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 02, 2008 2:36 pm    Post subject: Re: Is there any reason to hope in these futureless times... Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

blukatzen wrote:

"DO"...don't "think". "DO"...don't "feel".
When you've DONE enough..there will be no time for "what if's".
You'll have DONE it.

Now get DOING it!


I liked it better the first time in Empire Strikes Back:

"Do or do not, there is no try."


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 02, 2008 5:14 pm    Post subject: Re: Is there any reason to hope in these futureless times... Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

mos6507 wrote:

"Do or do not, there is no try."


Oh I hate that little phrase. Mad
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 16, 2008 6:20 am    Post subject: Re: Is there any reason to hope in these futureless times... Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

For me, hope, and a positive outlook, seem to come focusing on what I can do right now to make my life better. If I'm tired, then I rest a bit, or sick, then I do all I can to recover. On a normal day, I mentally check off what is on my immediate list to do, and the sensible priorities of those things. Then, I have an immediate goal for the day. If I'm able to achieve something toward that goal, or for something further down the list, then I have reason to feel good about it. If not, then I have food for thought on planning the next day, which gives an opportunity for tomorrow to be better.

My glass may only be half full, but I can exult in having half a glass! And the opportunity to find a way to fill it up. The creative challenge to find the answers is fun.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 16, 2008 6:48 am    Post subject: Re: Is there any reason to hope in these futureless times... Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

ReverseEngineer wrote:
When I was a young man there was a saying I was fond of, "Live Fast, Die Young, Leave a Good Looking Corpse". Despite my best efforts crashing several motorcycles and taking far too many drugs and alcohol in a given evening, I managed to survive, and my corpse won't be all that good looking now.

Nobody here really knows exactly how its all going to play itself out. Without doubt though, tomorrow's world will look a little less like today than today did. What you can HOPE for is to figure out how you will negotiate the transition from today to tomorrow in your own life. This gives us all something to shoot for each day.

You do sound young though, so worst case scenario, Live Fast, Die Young, Leave a Good Looking Corpse.

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 16, 2008 11:32 am    Post subject: Re: Is there any reason to hope in these futureless times... Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Ludi wrote:
mos6507 wrote:

"Do or do not, there is no try."


Oh I hate that little phrase. Mad


I think it's great. If you don't go into something thinking you can pull it off (even if it's just blind optimistim) you'll doom your project from the start, even subliminally.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 16, 2008 7:25 pm    Post subject: Re: Is there any reason to hope in these futureless times... Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

If you set out to DO, and fail, then, thats thats, you bit off too much, and you should go DO something else.

If you set out to try... well, did you try hard enough? Can you move on, did you succeed, but it felt hard only because you didn't put your best into it?

DO.
Then rest.
(visit to ER may be optional afterwards...)
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 26, 2008 6:30 pm    Post subject: Re: Is there any reason to hope in these futureless times... Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

I try stuff all the time. Most of the time I succeed in doing.

Just sayin'.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 26, 2008 7:10 pm    Post subject: Re: Is there any reason to hope in these futureless times... Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

There is no hope. Only pain.

The End.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 26, 2008 7:19 pm    Post subject: Re: Is there any reason to hope in these futureless times... Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

We're in the end of October, almost into November. This can be a very dark time of the year. I find myself getting gloomy even when we haven't had a financial collapse.

Remember that when Pandora opened the box and all the evils flew out there was one thing left, and that was hope.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 26, 2008 7:28 pm    Post subject: Re: Is there any reason to hope in these futureless times... Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

I know what you mean Revi, once winter comes up here in MN, you feel trapped inside a version of Hades with fluorescent lights. I know tanning is the devil and causes skin cancer, but once or twice a month in the winter time can actually make you feel a little bit better. Something about that warm feeling on your skin once you're done is like a few minutes of summer.
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