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PostPosted: Mon Sep 01, 2008 9:01 am    Post subject: Re: 2008 Hurricane / Typhoon / Cyclone Season Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Waters overtop industrial canal

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Waves overtopped New Orleans' industrial canal in the Upper 9th Ward Monday, as Hurricane Gustav roared toward land south of the city. The Lower 9th Ward was destroyed by flooding three years ago when a levee along the same canal broke during Hurricane Katrina.

As of 9:40 a.m., the levee remained unbroken. Meanwhile, city officials reported two ships broken loose from their moorings and careening down the same industrial canal.

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 01, 2008 9:03 am    Post subject: Re: 2008 Hurricane / Typhoon / Cyclone Season Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 01, 2008 9:05 am    Post subject: Re: 2008 Hurricane / Typhoon / Cyclone Season Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Has anyone noticed any spikes in gasoline prices anywhere along the east coast over the past couple of days? Prices haven't budged here, and for good reason, as we have a very strict anti-gouging law in place. Even if there's a shortage coming on, I would expect the governor to order prices frozen and just let the tanks be drained dry.

Sure would be nice to be out of gas for a week or 2 around here...free run on the streets on my bike without fear of being run over by cars. Very Happy
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 01, 2008 9:08 am    Post subject: Re: 2008 Hurricane / Typhoon / Cyclone Season Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

CNN's weather man said on the air that he gassed up all his vehicles yesterday. He lives in Atlanta, but he was afraid that supplies would be disrupted.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 01, 2008 9:13 am    Post subject: Re: 2008 Hurricane / Typhoon / Cyclone Season Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Leanan wrote:
CNN's weather man said on the air that he gassed up all his vehicles yesterday. He lives in Atlanta, but he was afraid that supplies would be disrupted.


That statement on the air could very easily become a self fulfilling prophecy. Someone, I think it was Pupp but it could have been several others, pointed out that just topping off every vehicle gas tank in the USA would be a huge draw down in supply as the fuel moves from the ground to the vehicle. The Government uses the in the ground figure for calculation, so emptying everything into mobile tanks causes a huge statistical spike.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 01, 2008 9:21 am    Post subject: Re: 2008 Hurricane / Typhoon / Cyclone Season Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

I think Simmons said that if everyone rushed to fill up at once, it would drain the system dry.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 01, 2008 9:22 am    Post subject: Re: 2008 Hurricane / Typhoon / Cyclone Season Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

CNN is reporting cracks in the Industrial Canal levees that were being overtopped.

They said the Lower Ninth Ward is likely to be flooded again.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 01, 2008 9:22 am    Post subject: Re: 2008 Hurricane / Typhoon / Cyclone Season Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

I don't get this topping off a vehicle..all that does is gives one 3 extra days in a SHTF senerio...If this would say turn out into an Oil Storm nightmare then filling off a tank will do nothing to anyone.
Hell I have a scooter that gets 70 mpg and I top it off and that last me an with a full tank 2 weeks at best. Whoopty do....
If these people want to prepare for an oil storm it ain't by topping off the tank! That wont do hardly crap! If I lived in teh USA and I felt shortage was coming I'd fill up at least minimum 50 gallons extra in gasoline...as well as top off everything.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 01, 2008 9:27 am    Post subject: Re: 2008 Hurricane / Typhoon / Cyclone Season Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

I topped off my car over the weekend.

I don't drive much, and could drive even less than I do. I fill up maybe once a month, so topping off the tank gives me a lot more than three days.

I think people also want to avoid a price spike, and the hassle of waiting in line. (Remember, there are fistfights and even guns pulled during fuel shortages after Katrina.)

CNN says water spurting from cracks at the bottom of the Industrial Canal levees.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 01, 2008 9:29 am    Post subject: Re: 2008 Hurricane / Typhoon / Cyclone Season Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

There is flooding on Louisiana 1, cutting off Port Fourchon

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by Jaquetta White, The Times-Picayune
Monday September 01, 2008, 9:14 AM

Hurricane Gustav has already pushed about three feet of water on Louisiana 1, the only access road to Port Fourchon, the port's director Ted Falgout said.

By 7 a.m. this morning, wind gusts at the port, a major intersection for the offshore petroleum industry and oil imports, had reached 105 mph.

Port Fourchon houses the Louisiana Offshore Oil Port, through which about 15 percent of the nation's oil imports. Oil and gas production in the Gulf of Mexico is currently shut-in.

With the only inland road leading to the port flooded, Port Fourchon is inaccessible by land, however, there is no way to tell if the road is damaged.

"How soon it drains off is the question. Water in itself is not a problem," said Larry Wall, a spokesman for the Louisiana Mid-Continent Oil and Gas Association. "The Gulf is all pretty much shut in, how soon it can come back on line is the question."

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 01, 2008 9:33 am    Post subject: Re: 2008 Hurricane / Typhoon / Cyclone Season Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

The beast is moving rapidly West. His western velocity is 12 mph.

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Leanan said:

I think Simmons said that if everyone rushed to fill up at once, it would drain the system dry.

That was a calculation I posted here more than a year ago. If everyone added 1/8 extra to their tank, it would bring us to LOI instantly.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 01, 2008 9:33 am    Post subject: Re: 2008 Hurricane / Typhoon / Cyclone Season Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Port of New Orleans is under water. CNN says there is "tremendous flooding" occurring at the Port of New Orleans now. CNN says one of the loose barges is bumping against the industrial canal wall at this time.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 01, 2008 9:36 am    Post subject: Re: 2008 Hurricane / Typhoon / Cyclone Season Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

CNN weather guy saying the storm surge just beginning. There's hours more to go. He thinks the levees will fail, the only question is where.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 01, 2008 9:44 am    Post subject: Re: 2008 Hurricane / Typhoon / Cyclone Season Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Don't ever let anyone tell the posters on this thread that they don't have an imagination! I mean, who are we to let little trivialities like reality get in the way of reveling in a good ol' orgy of mass destruction!

Do I start wanking now or should I wait until someone posts a screen capture of Port Fourchon from Oil Storm?
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 01, 2008 9:44 am    Post subject: Re: 2008 Hurricane / Typhoon / Cyclone Season Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Leanan wrote:
CNN weather guy saying the storm surge just beginning. There's hours more to go. He thinks the levees will fail, the only question is where.

This is NOLA? Damn the storm missed there! But the flooding sure didn't....talk on anouther oil site forum is that Port Fourchon is buried in water..the roads are inaccessible, one post who works at Port Fourchon in the oil distribution says it is a HUGE problem he is expecting a close in for at least a week.
Port Fourchon took a massive hit from winds and esp flooding, it is going to cripple that area for some time.
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