I think this is the beginnings of an economy based on perpetual growth and fossil fuel energy running headlong into geological energy constraints. Basically I see an undulatory downward path for the rest of my life. From here out, I think any rallies in our economic condition are going to be met with spiking commodity prices that knock us right back down.
Posted: Mon Sep 01, 2008 9:41 am Post subject: we have used very little oil
1 trillion barrel is 330,000,000 tons
earth weights in at 580,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 tons
that's one trillionth of trillionth of one precent of the earth's mass
I know the earth produces the oil,you must drill deep
Posted: Mon Sep 01, 2008 9:42 am Post subject: Re: we have used very little oil
topfuel wrote:
1 trillion barrel is 330,000,000 tons
earth weights in at 580,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 tons
that's one trillionth of trillionth of one precent of the earth's mass
I know the earth produces the oil,you must drill deep
So tell us how you know this. I'm intrigued. _________________ All that we are is the result of what we have thought. The mind is everything. What we think we become. - Buddha
Posted: Mon Sep 01, 2008 10:13 am Post subject: Re: we have used very little oil
Why does anybody respond to this? _________________ Massive Human Dieoff must occur as a result of Peak Oil. Many more than half will die. It will occur everywhere, including where you live. If you fail to recognize this, then your odds of living move toward the "going to die" group.
Posted: Mon Sep 01, 2008 10:27 am Post subject: Re: we have used very little oil
LOL keep drilling, I'm going to stick to my assumption that photosynthesis produces the organic precursor to oil. The deep oil is just old oil, that was buried over time with sediment and salty precipitate.
The earth's core does provide energy and material for volcanic eruptions, which in turn feed the atmosphere and oceans with CO2 and sediment. The heat from the core and pressure due to depth also helps the organic matter decompose, so yeah in an abstract way, oil comes from within the earth.
It is rare that I make a post that is purely for my own amusement, but this is one. I dont hope to learn anything from this thread other than the nuances of popular ignorance.
Posted: Mon Sep 01, 2008 1:21 pm Post subject: Re: we have used very little oil
At what rate is the earth producing oil?
What happens when production and/or consumption rates exceed the rate of production?
The ignition temperature of crude oil ranges from 450-600 degrees Kelvin =350-620 degrees Fahrenheit.
The temperature of the earth's crust increases by as much as 50°F for every mile drilled downward. Starting at 0 degrees in an unexplored arctic region, that would give you about 7 miles before the oil would ignite, given sufficient oxygen.
The mantle of the earth begins about 7 miles below the crust, although up to 190 miles below in some areas, and has a temperature ranging from 2500 to 5400 degrees. Getting into the mantle would destroy any equipment able to get to it, making it unsuitable for oil drilling.
Your numbers are flawed.
Your theory is unsupported and contains geothermal limits to feasibility. _________________ If you want a picture of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face--for ever."
-George Orwell, 1984
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Posted: Mon Sep 01, 2008 1:50 pm Post subject: Re: we have used very little oil
topfuel wrote:
1 trillion barrel is 330,000,000 tons
earth weights in at 580,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 tons
that's one trillionth of trillionth of one precent of the earth's mass
I know the earth produces the oil,you must drill deep
_________________ Cogito, ergo non satis bibivi
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Posted: Mon Sep 01, 2008 2:04 pm Post subject: Re: we have used very little oil
topfuel wrote:
1 trillion barrel is 330,000,000 tons
earth weights in at 580,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 tons
that's one trillionth of trillionth of one precent of the earth's mass
I know the earth produces the oil,you must drill deep
I realize I'm just as much a newby at this as you are, but this sounds silly even to me.
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Posted: Mon Sep 01, 2008 4:07 pm Post subject: Re: we have used very little oil
Go easy on the guy. Who nows, he may be privy to extra-terrestrial information on our planet. _________________ Bugger me, I hear oil's runnin out mate!
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