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Cashmere
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 Posted: Wed Sep 24, 2008 12:16 pm Post subject: Why so many CC/GW articles? |
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While I agree that CC and/or GW may end up, down the road, being the issues that extinguish humans or at least drive humans to the edge of extinction, why is it that the PO.com splash page runs so many GW/CC articles.
It's my opinion that GW/CC should be the exclusive domain of the "open forum" or some "environmental forum", neither of which gets listed in the active threads on the home page.
In summary, this is Peak Oil dot Com.
Not,
Peak Oil and Other Scary Things About Which Your Folks Never Spoke But About Which You Should Be Aware dot Com
It's my opinion that the GW/CC things does 2 things:
1. Drives away people who log on and see 2 or 3 articles directed to it.
2. Weakens the focus on PO and PO related issues.
As a final note, CC and GW are far from proven scientifically, regardless of any cited "consensus", whereas Peak Oil is a complete certainty scientificly, with the only question left being that of timing.
I personally don't really care about the CC GW issue on PO.com, but I see it as hurting the message of the site, if PO is construed to be the message of the site.
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ProudFossil
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| Posted: Wed Sep 24, 2008 12:23 pm Post subject: Re: Why so many CC/GW articles? |
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| Cashmere wrote: | ... why is it that the PO.com splash page runs so many GW/CC articles.
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Because the most active posters on Peakoil.com revel in any kind of a disaster or crisis and the media is being flooded with alll these "studies" showing some type of crisis in GW/CC. I guarantee that if bird flu were to raise its head again in the media it would become a major topic here. |
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Leanan
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| Posted: Wed Sep 24, 2008 12:24 pm Post subject: Re: Why so many CC/GW articles? |
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Why not submit the articles YOU want to see?
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Cashmere
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| Posted: Wed Sep 24, 2008 12:28 pm Post subject: Re: Why so many CC/GW articles? |
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| Leanan wrote: | | Why not submit the articles YOU want to see? |
Um. Didn't know I could?
In any case, Leanan, that really isn't the point, and you haven't answered the question.
Is it as simple as somebody has a hard on for GW and it's his/her pet issue?
I mean, I think it would be better for the site to have PO articles sit on the home page for a day or two rather than get quickly bumped down by "Polar Bears becoming carnivorous as polar ice recedes."
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ProudFossil
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| Posted: Wed Sep 24, 2008 12:38 pm Post subject: Re: Why so many CC/GW articles? |
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| Cashmere wrote: | | Leanan wrote: | | Why not submit the articles YOU want to see? |
Um. Didn't know I could?
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See the menu option at the top of the page "Submit News". As my dear old dad use to say, "When all else fails, read the instructions". |
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Quinny
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| Posted: Wed Sep 24, 2008 12:41 pm Post subject: Re: Why so many CC/GW articles? |
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I don't think you've thought that through!
Do you realise what you might have started.
| ProudFossil wrote: | | Cashmere wrote: | | Leanan wrote: | | Why not submit the articles YOU want to see? |
Um. Didn't know I could?
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See the menu option at the top of the page "Submit News". As my dear old dad use to say, "When all else fails, read the instructions". |
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Leanan
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| Posted: Wed Sep 24, 2008 12:41 pm Post subject: Re: Why so many CC/GW articles? |
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| Cashmere wrote: | | Um. Didn't know I could? |
Any member of PeakOil.com can submit news stories. Click on the "submit news" link at the top of the page.
| Quote: | | Is it as simple as somebody has a hard on for GW and it's his/her pet issue? |
More than one person. Basically, the news stories on the front page reflect what people are interested in. Not just the news editors, but the members who take the time to search for and submit stories.
| Quote: | | I mean, I think it would be better for the site to have PO articles sit on the home page for a day or two rather than get quickly bumped down by "Polar Bears becoming carnivorous as polar ice recedes." |
We couldn't do that even if we wanted to. Basically, it's a stack. The newest story is always on top, and we can't change that. The articles are selected by a group of people, including ordinary members like you, and we post the stories as they come in, and when we have time.
And I'm not sure that would be a great idea. News stories are supposed to be news, and I'd rather have fresh stories at least every few hours than the same article for days. This is the Internet, not monthly magazine. People expect new material every day.
It is a bummer that sometimes good stories are buried by new submissions before they can be properly appreciated, but I don't see any realistic way around that. Maybe we could have a "what's hot" category or something, with the stories that got the most hits over the past few days.
But that would require re-programming the site.
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essex
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| Posted: Wed Sep 24, 2008 1:20 pm Post subject: Re: Why so many CC/GW articles? |
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The AGW mob don't have a well visited forum such as this so they parade their nonsense here. There seems to be a deep psychological need to wave the end of the world sign wherever they can. Warming isnt going to their plan and any suggestion or evidence to show their claims are false or grossly exaggerated are howled down. It's called cognitive dissonance.
http://www.learningandteaching.info/learning/dissonance.htm |
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Leanan
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| Posted: Wed Sep 24, 2008 1:37 pm Post subject: Re: Why so many CC/GW articles? |
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You gotta be kidding. If anyone's the red-headed stepchild, it's peak oil. There's a lot more interest in global warming than in peak oil. RealClimate gets more traffic than we do.
Climate change is "on topic" for this forum. It's not like some random RealClimate refugees came here and set up a Climate Change news topic. That was created by the people in charge of this site.
Bird flu articles are not allowed on the front page. Ditto 9/11 conspiracy stuff. But climate change has its own category. Therefore, it's not surprising there should be a lot of articles about it.
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cipi604
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| Posted: Wed Sep 24, 2008 2:55 pm Post subject: Re: Why so many CC/GW articles? |
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Cashmere is right, too many CC/GW articles. I'm tired of them.
Please post only PO related news. |
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Leanan
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| Posted: Wed Sep 24, 2008 3:18 pm Post subject: Re: Why so many CC/GW articles? |
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| cipi604 wrote: | Cashmere is right, too many CC/GW articles. I'm tired of them.
Please post only PO related news. |
Take it up with Aaron.
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aflurry
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| Posted: Wed Sep 24, 2008 3:24 pm Post subject: Re: Why so many CC/GW articles? |
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| I agree with Cashmere here if only because I am tired of the AGW denial conspiratorialists from being given a platform for grandstanding about all the supposed "grant money" being stolen and the opulent lifestyles of all those climate scientist oligarchs. |
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Cashmere
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| Posted: Wed Sep 24, 2008 3:39 pm Post subject: Re: Why so many CC/GW articles? |
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| aflurry wrote: | | I agree with Cashmere here if only because I am tired of the AGW denial conspiratorialists from being given a platform for grandstanding about all the supposed "grant money" being stolen and the opulent lifestyles of all those climate scientist oligarchs. |
Now we've added "conspiratorialist" to the unscientific word "denier"?
Why don't you commit to your religion entirely and just call them what you really think they are - - - "infidels".
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essex
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| Posted: Wed Sep 24, 2008 4:26 pm Post subject: Re: Why so many CC/GW articles? |
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| Leanan wrote: | You gotta be kidding. If anyone's the red-headed stepchild, it's peak oil. There's a lot more interest in global warming than in peak oil. RealClimate gets more traffic than we do.
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Thanks, then take the global warming B/S to RealClimate where it belongs. |
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Leanan
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| Posted: Wed Sep 24, 2008 4:43 pm Post subject: Re: Why so many CC/GW articles? |
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| essex wrote: | | Thanks, then take the global warming B/S to RealClimate where it belongs. |
Sorry, but the owners of this site want it here.
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