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spot5050
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 24, 2008 4:39 pm    Post subject: How to tell when peak oil has happened Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Pick one of the following, or make your own...

The best indicator that peak-oil has occurred is;

1. World oil production is flat for two years.
2. Human population growth hits zero.
3. World GDP growth hits zero.
4. peakoil.com achieves 1,000,000 members.
5. The first item on a mainstream news channel is peak-oil.
6. Saudi Arabia fails to increase oil production after the West demands that it does.


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 24, 2008 4:52 pm    Post subject: Re: How to tell when peak oil has happened Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

7. When, after ten years of high prices, shortages, and economic chaos, oil flow rate fails to exceed its previous high. Popularly known as "rear view mirror."

Then there's net exports. This will kill us before global geologic peak.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 24, 2008 5:51 pm    Post subject: Re: How to tell when peak oil has happened Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

3-5 years after the plateau, if the oil flow is down at least 10%, when money can't buy any more oil.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 24, 2008 6:26 pm    Post subject: Re: How to tell when peak oil has happened Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

9-11 - the official reason we are in Iraq.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 24, 2008 6:31 pm    Post subject: Re: How to tell when peak oil has happened Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

If #6 were an indicator it would've seemed that we peaked in 1967...

Kinda wonder if we'll ever know. Perhaps the IEIIAIAIEAI will just obfuscate the data to calm markets and population while the real volumes just continue to decline.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 24, 2008 6:52 pm    Post subject: Re: How to tell when peak oil has happened Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

TV ads during football games feature 0% financing on home wind turbines instead of Chevys.

Late night infomercials change from real estate scams (finally!) and dubious home cleaning products to dubious home brew diesel products and energy savings scams.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 24, 2008 11:01 pm    Post subject: Re: How to tell when peak oil has happened Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

The car’s a rusted hulk on blocks in the driveway and you are receiving your weekly welfare check of $275,000 via the internet. (if you had to pick it up at the local office, it would be only $146,000 because of admin fees)
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 25, 2008 12:55 am    Post subject: Re: How to tell when peak oil has happened Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

When this website shuts down then we'll know for sure.

how so?

For example people do not sit around wasting their time debating whether if the Earth is flat or round.
When something is universally known, there is nothing left to debate. ---> people stop talking about it.

When PO becomes universally known then this website will be abandoned. In a way it's happening already. Have you noticed most of these discussions have nothing to do with "debating" peak oil but instead talking about the current economic ramifications. Shock
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 25, 2008 3:45 am    Post subject: Re: How to tell when peak oil has happened Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

When the current economic crisis has passed. Peak Oil has been put on hiatus for the time being.
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