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Cyrus
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 28, 2008 1:27 pm    Post subject: How do you think the markets will react tomorrow? Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

How do you think the markets will react tomorrow? With all of this bailout contreversey?
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 28, 2008 1:34 pm    Post subject: Re: How do you think the markets will react tomorrow? Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

I predict a rally which will quickly fizzle once they realize the government has to wipe out shareholder equity in order to make this program work.

The Feds bought 80% of AIG for $85 billion. The company was "saved" but the shareholders just experienced a massive dilution of their investment.

They effectly quadrupled the number of shares in print. That has one hell of an effect on earnings per share. I will be shocked if they return to their August level of $20 a share any time soon.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 28, 2008 1:55 pm    Post subject: Re: How do you think the markets will react tomorrow? Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

I expect a huge rally initially.

To be followed by the mother of all crashes, right on schedule.

As per Ben & Hank's Playbook
(skip ahead to 2:45)
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 28, 2008 2:01 pm    Post subject: Re: How do you think the markets will react tomorrow? Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

I predict a week long rally followed by a slow fizzling. In about 3 or 4 weeks it will dawn on the markets and the world that the bailout has failed. Then you will see the mother of all stock market crashes along with a dollar meltdown.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 28, 2008 2:11 pm    Post subject: Re: How do you think the markets will react tomorrow? Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

if there's no more bad news on the banking and insurance front this week, I expect the markets to hover around the 11,000 mark without any big rallies or slumps.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 28, 2008 2:22 pm    Post subject: Re: How do you think the markets will react tomorrow? Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

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Then on Friday, when the short selling ban expires, everything will go to hell again.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 28, 2008 2:30 pm    Post subject: Re: How do you think the markets will react tomorrow? Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

eye hav know phuking eye de a.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 28, 2008 2:45 pm    Post subject: Re: How do you think the markets will react tomorrow? Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

With a "methane burp" that would
make Cid_Yama proud !!

Triff ..
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 28, 2008 3:33 pm    Post subject: Re: How do you think the markets will react tomorrow? Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

They will themselves with fear. Bunch of frickin' amateurs.



That looks like a helluva party, SPG. Cool



But alas, there's the day after...


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 28, 2008 5:32 pm    Post subject: Re: How do you think the markets will react tomorrow? Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

If I could predict the future, I wouldn't have to work for a living. I'd go down to the race track once a week and put $100 on the trifecta.

This is why I don't buy publicly-listed stocks. My investments are in small start-up junior petes with private equity. Share value = book value, book value = reserves plus physical assets, and none of this roller-coaster nonsense.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 28, 2008 6:01 pm    Post subject: Re: How do you think the markets will react tomorrow? Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

I'll bet the market goes up until around the end of the week, then starts to tank again next week. The 700 billion may give them something to feed on for a week or two. Then they will be crying for more as the whole thing goes down again.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 28, 2008 6:37 pm    Post subject: Re: How do you think the markets will react tomorrow? Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Cyrus wrote:
With all of this bailout contreversey?


I was just about to ask everybody else the same thing...that is to say...I've got NO idea...but I'm definitely watching. My whole family hates the internet right now.

I sit down at the computer and my husband asks, routinely, "So, what sort of bad, evil, world-shattering thing is going to happen to us today?" and "Aren't you being just a little TOO paranoid?" and "Do I need to buy some more tinfoil?"

I think the kicker was a couple of nights ago when he said I was wearing an invisible tinfoil hat to throw off any other tinfoil hatters who might really be plants from the govt.

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 28, 2008 7:03 pm    Post subject: Re: How do you think the markets will react tomorrow? Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

First injection,, 2weeks

Thinks look slow, 2nd injection, 1 month

Got 200b$ left

Third injection, 3 months.

Obama, sends out more money.

2 months.

Then something weird happens,,, crash

we're screwed..

prep now
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 28, 2008 7:08 pm    Post subject: Re: How do you think the markets will react tomorrow? Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

The toughest job falls to Jack. He has to climb the beanstalk
again and break it to the giant that the note on the castle
in the air has gone sideways and he will have to put up all
his imaginary money or will not only lose the castle, but the
cloud it is on as well. Once he gets back down, if he gets
back down, he has to try to calm his mother, and then
hustle into town to see if his lawyer thinks he can
prevail on the guy who scammed him on the Magic Beans
for cow contract and hope the cow is still around and in
one piece. You and I both know that the cow is in many
little pieces, each one in a separate CDO (cow debt obligation)
and spread out between many players in many nations,
some of whom can not even be told they own a piece of cow
and in fact are prohibited by law from doing so.
I say Jack waits for JP Morgan or Citigroup to pull some or
all of the cow back in as part of working with the feds on the bailout, and then to talk himself back into a job, since he has actually seen the cow intact, and has a good idea on how
he might be put back together.

You and I have got it easy pal.

Jack is going to think he's is living in a friggin' fairy tale,
then again, so are the House Republicans.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 28, 2008 7:10 pm    Post subject: Re: How do you think the markets will react tomorrow? Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

I think the kicker was a couple of nights ago when he said I was wearing an invisible tinfoil hat to throw off any other tinfoil hatters who might really be plants from the govt.


wow what a sig line

let's see.........

I'm wearing my invisible tin foil hat to confuse those tin foil hat wearers who are really plants from the government sent to find everyone wearing a tin foil hat and put them on the A list.

I wouldn't want to be placed on the A list after all!
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