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doomlover666
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 27, 2008 11:49 pm    Post subject: Re: Lego Block Prision Cells Readied in Utah Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

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I'd bet that abut 30% were abusing sick leave, which is also a form of theft.

Wow denny, That's a little deep and a just ah little bit exterme. For one sick pay is usually a benefit of employment for when you work hard and most employers will take them away if you don't use it. So if said employee wants to recover from the flu at the strip club, that's their deal.

So denny lighten up a little bit and take a deep breath it will be okay buddie.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 28, 2008 12:23 am    Post subject: Re: Lego Block Prision Cells Readied in Utah Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

doomlover666 wrote:
So denny lighten up a little bit and take a deep breath it will be okay buddie.


I hear what you are saying, but new rules at work require me to hold a post-absence interview with anybody who has exhibited more than 3 occasions of sick leave in a year, or anyone who exceeds 8 days in any given year, and advise them that the corporation sees absences as a "detriment to its ongoing performance and sustainability". That the company has set zero absences as an attainable goal for most people, in most years. I am also forced to advise them that if they are having any emotional or substance abuse problems there is confidential counselling available. Lastly, if above norm absences continue, they will be released due to incapacity to met job requirements.

I have had to do three such just his year and I hate those. It would so much easier if everybody just gave 100%.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 28, 2008 9:47 am    Post subject: Re: Lego Block Prision Cells Readied in Utah Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Denny wrote:
It would so much easier if everybody just gave 100%.

No Denny, it would be so much easier if you worked for a company that didn't have unreasonable expectations of people. The amount of sick time people are going to need is variable, it will depend on the individual employee, their overall health, and their age.

I have taken one sick day in the past five years. I have the constitution of a bull, not everyone does. For instance another fellow I work with, a twenty-five year man, is a diabetic. Most of the time he has his health issues under pretty good control, but occasionally they get away from him and he takes a sick day. I'd guess six or so times a year. Is he abusing sick leave?

This is not to say that some people don't abuse sick time, they do. It does say that just because some people use a lot of sick time does not necessarily mean that they are abusing it. People are variable, their health is variable.

I repeat, the problem here is that you are working for a sweat shop. The kind of attitude your company has generates the abuse of sick leave. When you tell employees "here, here is a benefit, it is part of your compensation package", and then dole it out like scrooge, make them justify their use of that benefit and jump through hoops to use it they feel resentment. Resentment leads to a lot of time and effort being spent figuring out ways to use that sick time.

If your company really cannot afford the staffing shortages caused by unexpected sick leave they should consider the carrot instead of the stick. At the end of the year cut a cheque for 50-75% of each employees unused sick time. It works. People will come to work half dead in order to get that nice little lump sum.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 28, 2008 10:47 am    Post subject: Re: Lego Block Prision Cells Readied in Utah Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Something about these modular prison cells just seems so...inefficient. I don't know. Wouldn't it be easier (not to mention less conspicuous) to cart around rolls of fencing? The amount of modular cells that will be needed are just...staggering.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 28, 2008 4:25 pm    Post subject: Re: Lego Block Prision Cells Readied in Utah Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Denny wrote:
One cannot argue against the notion that a criminal behind bars is a criminal causing no harm.

Um, yes you can. Very easily. Putting a criminal behind bars costs money that could otherwise be spent on useful things for the community.

The best way to fight crime is prevention - take these people that are a drain on society simply in their existence and turn them into productive members.

Of course the die-off proponents won't like that either - we don't need more consumers, we need less. So perhaps all criminals should be executed? Note I am not suggesting that personally, but from a die-off perspective it's probably the best possible policy - you had your chance and you blew it, so we're going to make things easier for the rest of us.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 28, 2008 6:28 pm    Post subject: Re: Lego Block Prision Cells Readied in Utah Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

What's all this fuss about? Over here we call it "public housing" Laughing
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