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Ludi
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 22, 2008 12:17 pm    Post subject: Re: Should I Move There? Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Olaf wrote:
It is sometimes stunning to me how much of the state is undeveloped.


Often these kinds of regions are undeveloped because they have been difficult to live in and especially difficult to farm in...something to keep in mind for those looking to move......
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 22, 2008 2:26 pm    Post subject: Re: Should I Move There? Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Ludi, that's so subtle of you. Smile

I don't need a place to farm, though. I'd rather go fishing. Could do a garden too, and plant things I can't dream of growing down hyah.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 22, 2008 2:32 pm    Post subject: Re: Should I Move There? Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Yep, hardy folks were able to thrive in those tough areas by foraging, hunting, and growing a little garden for themselves. Smile
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 22, 2008 3:33 pm    Post subject: Re: Should I Move There? Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Interesting choice of locations. It's hard to tell whether you're in a hardiness zone 3 or 4 area. I'll assume that you've foregone growing most nut and fruit trees, though I wouldn't be surprised if there are other edible tree/shrub crops that you could bring along.

Of course, global warming will move the hardiness zones further north on average. See how tree growing ranges will shift over time.

One thing to think about is a re-occurrence of The Year Without Summer, though possibly for other reasons (i.e., limited nuclear war).
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 22, 2008 8:24 pm    Post subject: Re: Should I Move There? Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

I didn't really choose the location, Skyemoor. I saw an ad and fell in love with a pond. Impractical, I know. You could say the location chose me.

In any case, folks, I've decided not to pursue this particular pipe dream. Would put too much strain on my loved ones, and on me.

The idea of trying to sell intrinsically valuable real estate into this market is surely madness.

There is probably a move in my future, but I think it will have to wait a few years yet.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 22, 2008 8:31 pm    Post subject: Re: Should I Move There? Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

For those who are interested, here is a link to an ad for the property in question:

http://www.landandfarm.com/lf/s/56/toothaker_pond.asp

Just remember that all is not necessarily as it seems . . .
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 23, 2008 8:47 pm    Post subject: Re: Should I Move There? Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

I just stumbled on this thread for the first time and am kind of saddened that you decided not to buy it, Heineken...

After a trip there 20 years go, I've often dreamed of owning a place like that in upstate New York. Doubt it'll ever happen but it is an idyllic setting for sure!

I wanted to comment on the observations made about wood stoves in mobile homes - there are plenty of HUD approved stoves for installation in mobile homes. Properly installed (mainly an outside air intake, bolted to the floor & close-clearance connector pipe) they are not a safety issue unless you are. Plenty of insurance companies will cover them.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 23, 2008 9:31 pm    Post subject: Re: Should I Move There? Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Actually, Heineken, as much as I think the place is appealing, I think you made the right decision, at least for now.

I think this based on your saying that the pond was the primary appeal, as opposed to the general location (up north, weather, etc).

If you're gonna do the whole upheaval of moving, I think it's important that the general region you're going to be of major appeal, rather than just the one piece of property, or even worse, just one aspect of that property.

Keep looking for a pond, and one will probably come along attached to a place that makes an easier decision for you.

Also keep in mind that while you are correct that it might be harder and harder to sell your parcels as time passes, it will likewise get harder and harder for OTHER parcels to sell, and there will be more and more of them on the market. A buyer's market should be good for you in that regard, lots of places to choose from. Price your own parcels right (list them right off the bat with the lowest fair price you'd accept, then keep that (pretty) firm, and they'll sell too.

Best wishes in the meantime, and again, I think you did the right thing for you!
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 28, 2008 10:06 pm    Post subject: Re: Should I Move There? Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Hey there, H,
I read the beginning of this thread skipped the middle and went straight to the end.
How about you and your companion do some traveling this winter? Look at different states/climates where you might like to live. It is important to view your future home in all seasons, so why not start now? Scratch that restless itch and go on vacation.
What were the slugs like at your fantasy pond property? ;-0 Here in Corvallis Oregon, I bought several cases of cheap beer for the slug traps this spring and summer and still had to go out with scissors to stop the buggers from eating everything in sight. That's when I started hitting the bottle Rolling Eyes
Still I love it here for the water. (Except for all the watering in the summer to keep the plants going that normally don't grow here.)
Me and mine are 50 years old this year. We miss the quiet of the deep forest but have to keep making $$ for many a year so we don't live rurally but have a rented existence where we can pretend to be as pioneering as we choose.
These are most uncertain times. Wait a year and see where the four winds blow and surf your reality from there.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 7:42 am    Post subject: Re: Should I Move There? Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Thank you so much, Cynthia. Your posts always impress me with their kindness and sweetness, qualities all too rare these days.
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