Oil's energy contribution has declined by about 12% since 1999. The world's economies have also declined by about 12%. (Using conventional metrics, which are time delayed determinations, this will only be seen in hind sight). The massive destruction of asset values now occurring testifies to it happening.
Peak is well behind us, world economies have peaked and will continue to decline.
Joined: May 28, 2008 Posts: 105 Location: Leon, Gto. Mexico
Posted: Sun Sep 28, 2008 6:37 pm Post subject: How long does stored food last?
While looking for an answer to "How long does uncooked rice last", i found this; I want to share it with all of you and to hear your comments or opinions about it.
Thanks!
How Long Does Stored Food Last?
Meat and Poultry - Uncooked
Chicken and turkey - Nine months
Steaks, beef - Six to 12 months
Chops, pork - Four to six months
Chops, lamb - Six to nine months
Roasts, beef - Six to 12 months
Roasts, lamb - Six to nine months
Roasts, pork and veal - Four to six months
Stew Meats - Three to four months
Ground meats - Three to four months
Organ meats - Three to four months
Dairy Products
Butter/margarine - Six to nine months
Cheese, soft and spreads, dips - One month
Cheese, hard or semi-hard - Six months
Eggs in shell- Do not freeze
Ice cream - One month
Milk / Cream - Three weeks
Dried Food Items - Shelf Life
Baking powder/soda - 18 months
Bread Crumbs - Six months
Cereals - Six months
Coffee creamer, dry - Six months
Flour/cake mixes - One year
Gelatin/pudding mixes - One year
Herbs/spices - Six to 12 months
Milk, nonfat dry - Six months
Pancake/pie crust mixes - Six months
Pasta/noodles - Two years
Potatoes, instant - 18 months
Rice, white - Two years
Sugar, granulated - Two years
Sugar, brown, confectioners'- Four months
Fruits & Vegetables
Commercially frozen fruits will last up to a year in your freezer.
Posted: Sun Sep 28, 2008 7:06 pm Post subject: Re: How long does stored food last?
I suppose it totally depends how you store it. Frozen meats are good for a long time. I've got stuff I'm just pulling out of the freezer that's two years old, and it's fine. Dried goods: Rice, flour, salt, sugar, beans, etc. stored in super pails are in the 30 year range. _________________ "We were standing on the edges
Of a thousand burning bridges
Sifting through the ashes every day
What we thought would never end
Now is nothing more than a memory
The way things were before
I lost my way" - OCMS
Joined: May 28, 2008 Posts: 105 Location: Leon, Gto. Mexico
Posted: Sun Sep 28, 2008 7:08 pm Post subject: Re: How long does stored food last?
smallpoxgirl wrote:
I suppose it totally depends how you store it. Frozen meats are good for a long time. I've got stuff I'm just pulling out of the freezer that's two years old, and it's fine. Dried goods: Rice, flour, salt, sugar, beans, etc. stored in super pails are in the 30 year range.
Joined: Jun 18, 2008 Posts: 59 Location: Nth-East Oz
Posted: Sun Sep 28, 2008 9:29 pm Post subject: Re: How long does stored food last?
I think its a food grade sealable storage bucket. Smallpoxgirl is right with proper storage rice and wheat could go for 30 years. Along with the buckets you need liner bags[mylar are the best] and oxygen absorbers. _________________ "Your going to call off your rigorous investigation, or these guys are going to take your balls"
Joined: May 28, 2008 Posts: 105 Location: Leon, Gto. Mexico
Posted: Sun Sep 28, 2008 9:35 pm Post subject: Re: How long does stored food last?
Ronin wrote:
I think its a food grade sealable storage bucket. Smallpoxgirl is right with proper storage rice and wheat could go for 30 years. Along with the buckets you need liner bags[mylar are the best] and oxygen absorbers.
Thanks! Where would you likely find that kind of stuff? Are this things sold in home depot, for example? I really have no idea.
Posted: Sun Sep 28, 2008 9:54 pm Post subject: Re: How long does stored food last?
cualcrees wrote:
Thanks! Where would you likely find that kind of stuff? Are this things sold in home depot, for example? I really have no idea.
www.sorbentsystems.com For the liners and oxygen absorbers. Home Depot is fine for buckets. _________________ "We were standing on the edges
Of a thousand burning bridges
Sifting through the ashes every day
What we thought would never end
Now is nothing more than a memory
The way things were before
I lost my way" - OCMS
Joined: May 06, 2006 Posts: 873 Location: Tustin, CA
Posted: Sun Sep 28, 2008 10:43 pm Post subject: Re: How long does stored food last?
I remember seeing a documentary back in the mid 1960’s were the people making the film found a box of canned c-rations from the Marines fight with the Japanese is 1942. After 20 years in bad, tropical conditions; the film makers found the c-rations (Baked Beans as I remember) in good, even tasty condition.
Anything canned I would bet, will outlast your life time. _________________ Skeptical scrutiny in both Science and Religion is the means by which deep thoughts are winnowed from deep nonsense-Carl Sagan
Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 3:35 am Post subject: Re: How long does stored food last?
IIRC the world record for food storage goes to the ancient Egyptans. grains of wheat recoverd from one of the pyramids hence about 2000 years old were found to still germinate. So indeed it is a matter of how you store it and how dry the conditions are.
In freezer life also varies greatly depending on the quality of the wrapping , the temperature of the freezer and how much stuff gets moved around while other food is searched for. A well organized freezer where you know which stack is the one you want with the stack packed so that the top item is most likely to be what you want can save a lot of wear and tear on the corners of the freezer bags. try as I might I cant get the family to take whatever bag of frozen veggies is on top of the veggie stack as tonights selection.
If you want something to last a long time in the freezer double wrap it and put it way down in the bottom corner and cover it with a stack of lima beans or similar or even better a rolled up bear skin in a garbage bag. I had junior in the freezer for ten years before I sent him off to be made into a rug and no one ever found the moose steakes he was guarding.
Joined: Dec 02, 2007 Posts: 193 Location: Winnipeg, MB, Canada
Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 4:19 am Post subject: Re: How long does stored food last?
hope_full wrote:
What size/style mylar bag do you use for the five-gallon bucket (for food storage)?
Simply buy the ones that fit 5 gallon bags.
Also, you will need to seal them with an iron and an aluminum level. (poor mans heat sealer) It works! You use the level to make a nice line pattern seal. You should also get ALL the air out of the bags by simply sealing the bag, snipped off a corner, drag all the air out, then seal the corner. With the desiccant there will be no O2 in it within a few hours. Food saved for 30 years.
Joined: Oct 16, 2004 Posts: 1281 Location: Brisbane, Australia
Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 5:30 am Post subject: Re: How long does stored food last?
I heard about an archeological dig in Egypt found wheat sealed in clay jars, that were at least several hundred years old (can't remember exactly), that germinated when they tested it. _________________ Kind regards, Katkinkate
"The ultimate goal of farming is not the growing of crops,
but the cultivation and perfection of human beings."
Masanobu Fukuoka
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IIRC the world record for food storage goes to the ancient Egyptans. grains of wheat recoverd from one of the pyramids hence about 2000 years old were found to still germinate. So indeed it is a matter of how you store it and how dry the conditions are.
