Oil's energy contribution has declined by about 12% since 1999. The world's economies have also declined by about 12%. (Using conventional metrics, which are time delayed determinations, this will only be seen in hind sight). The massive destruction of asset values now occurring testifies to it happening.
Peak is well behind us, world economies have peaked and will continue to decline.
Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 3:34 pm Post subject: Re: Did they know the mics were still on
Okay, I don't know if I'm being dense - I understand the Argentina statement because I've done a little studying up on that lately but what does the popcorn and barcolounger mean?
Was he just saying that he's entertained? _________________ “In the Soviet Union, capitalism triumphed over communism. In this country, capitalism triumphed over democracy.”
[Fran Lebowitz
Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 3:49 pm Post subject: Re: Did they know the mics were still on
AlexdeLarge wrote:
Michael Moore? Now theres an opinion you can trust. LOL
Just because he's a bloated gas bag with a political agenda, doesn't mean he's wrong. _________________ The whole of human history is a refutation by experiment of the concept of "moral world order". - Friedrich Nietzsche
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Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 4:21 pm Post subject: Re: Did they know the mics were still on
StuckInPhilly wrote:
Okay, I don't know if I'm being dense - I understand the Argentina statement because I've done a little studying up on that lately but what does the popcorn and barcolounger mean?
Was he just saying that he's entertained?
My feeling is that it means, "the show is about to begin, and you better settle in, cuz you don't want to miss this!" Basically, TEOTWAWKI.
Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 4:43 pm Post subject: Re: Did they know the mics were still on
Spanktron9 wrote:
StuckInPhilly wrote:
Okay, I don't know if I'm being dense - I understand the Argentina statement because I've done a little studying up on that lately but what does the popcorn and barcolounger mean?
Was he just saying that he's entertained?
My feeling is that it means, "the show is about to begin, and you better settle in, cuz you don't want to miss this!" Basically, TEOTWAWKI.
Thanks - I'm gonna go grab my cheesy popcorn then! _________________ “In the Soviet Union, capitalism triumphed over communism. In this country, capitalism triumphed over democracy.”
[Fran Lebowitz
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Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 5:54 pm Post subject: Re: Did they know the mics were still on
StuckInPhilly wrote:
frankthetank wrote:
They probably didn't realize it. I can just imagine what the real conversations on these shows go like. I just got done watching "Anchorman" last night and i'm sure it isn't too far from the truth.
MM is probably right about the cash giveaway. Although i still don't see how Americans are going to pick up the bill when they have no jobs...and about health insurance...if people weren't so GOD DAMN FAT and lazy and actually ate less and EXERCISED they wouldn't need to go to the hospital...
What a crock!
Oh wait, I forgot that the only reason anyone goes to the hospital is because of lifestyle choices.
Forget the heart disease, appendicitis or gallstones.
Also car accidents, work accidents and cancer. And obesity is correlated with diabetes, high blood pressure, cardiac probs etc., not the cause of these problems. It is possible to be fat and well, in fact the majority of fat people are well. There are large numbers of skinny people with diabetes, high blood pressure, cardiac probs, etc. so obesity isn't the primary cause. _________________ Kind regards, Katkinkate
"The ultimate goal of farming is not the growing of crops,
but the cultivation and perfection of human beings."
Masanobu Fukuoka
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Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 8:40 pm Post subject: Re: Did they know the mics were still on
Strange how his detractors always mention MM's weight when insulting him. Never hear any credible arguments against the ideology or veracity of the subject matter he presents. Always straight to the 7th grade insults. He's fat so he must be lying or at least exaggerrating. " hey FATBOY, I got yer' healthcare reform right here!"
Turns out he's been totally vindicated in his condemnation of the supposed reasons for the Iraqi invasion, watch Fahrenheit 911 and tell me where he's wrong.
Was he just a stupid fat tub-o'-lard for shining a light on the urban blight of Michigan due to poor decisions by the executives at the big three?
How about bowling for Columbine? Silly fat f*ck for doing a story about a couple sick kids who killed a lot of other kids, God forbid he examined the role of guns in this uber-violent society we live in, and no he didn't reach the conclusion guns were bad and should be banned. He basically said "why are we so prone to violence in the U.S."
SICKO? He was dead on in this movie and has basically destroyed anyone who has had the balls to debate the movie's merits with him. I've heard so many people tell blatant lies about the facts of the movie it makes me sick. Usually right-wingers on FOX that will never have the balls to debate him face to face. How's that unregulated, free-market stuff working for you Repubs now? _________________ It's the height of rudeness for the stretch polyester pants crowd to foist their tard version of Christ on talmudic scholars. But they don't get this, because they are, after all, extremely thick.----Threadbare
Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 10:32 pm Post subject: Re: Did they know the mics were still on
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How's that unregulated, free-market stuff working for you Repubs now?
Its working GREATTT for them! They are going to be handed 700 billion with almost no oversite to further enrich themselves and sell off the worst of their ponzi schemes and continue the party now that the mythical money they made has been shown to be, well, mythical!
The problem people have with understanding todays mainstream "conservatives" is that it is not a belief system, its an excuse made to get rid of anything that would interfere with them emptying consumers' wallets, bank vaults, and government coffers by any means possible without going to the slammer like normal con man felons do.
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Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 10:54 pm Post subject: Re: Did they know the mics were still on
The banks may eventually get a couple hundred billion with extensive oversight, but don't forget the 777 pt. drop today wiped out about 1.6 trillion in wealth, mostly republican wealth. _________________ It's the height of rudeness for the stretch polyester pants crowd to foist their tard version of Christ on talmudic scholars. But they don't get this, because they are, after all, extremely thick.----Threadbare
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Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 11:25 pm Post subject: Re: Did they know the mics were still on
jboogy wrote:
Strange how his detractors always mention MM's weight when insulting him. Never hear any credible arguments against the ideology or veracity of the subject matter he presents.
You aren't looking hard enough. There are plenty of websites that tear his material apart. For the record, I sway maybe 75% towards MM, but that last 25% of spin that he puts in his material is what makes the difference between a 60 minutes style expose and a political manifesto. _________________ http://doomsteaddiary.blogspot.com/
Posted: Tue Sep 30, 2008 4:37 am Post subject: Re: Did they know the mics were still on
[quote="jboogy"]Strange how his detractors always mention MM's weight when insulting him. Never hear any credible arguments against the ideology or veracity of the subject matter he presents.
I think that in general he has good ideas but he does not exactly make good documentaries.
My bone to pick with him is that he is not thorough (in the interests of making a riveting film, no doubt). He'll show rabbits getting beaten to death but won't actually go into why the US is why more violent than other countries that have guns.
I haven't seen Sicko yet but that is an easy, easy target. There's just a huge stinking mound of evidence that our system sucks that it would be hard to make a movie with anything good to say about it. _________________ “In the Soviet Union, capitalism triumphed over communism. In this country, capitalism triumphed over democracy.”
[Fran Lebowitz
Posted: Thu Oct 02, 2008 5:06 am Post subject: Re: Did they know the mics were still on
Pretorian wrote:
Argentina is a huge country with fertile land, vast natural reserves and a small population with no Negros. Good luck matching that in US.
YEAH them Negros be real scary coming to steal white mans goods, breakin into yer house and rape n yer daughters. Best we be fixen them Negros somehow. _________________ "Once the game is over, the king and the pawn go back in the same box."
-Italian Proverb
Posted: Thu Oct 02, 2008 12:55 pm Post subject: Re: Did they know the mics were still on
I believe the "Argentina" comment relates to the hyperinflation episode that the country experienced in 2002.
At the time, Argentina was running chronic fiscal deficits (eg. continually increasing their debt) and eventally defaulted on their international debts. There was a liquidity crisis at the banks, rapidly escalating unemployment, and eventually bank withdrawal restrictions. This caused a massive devaluation of their currency and quickly wiped out about 2/3 of the value of middle-class savings.
Sound familiar? This happened only a few years ago in the country with the highest Human Development Index and second-highest GDP of any Latin American country. Think it couldn't happen in the US? The warning signs are all the same. Only thing that is different is the magnitude...it'll be about 10 times worse.
Posted: Thu Oct 02, 2008 1:14 pm Post subject: Re: Did they know the mics were still on
I think that the 'popcorn and barcalounger' comment is perhaps referring to the Great Depression, where popcorn that was sold by street vendors was the only luxury the average middle-class person could afford. 'Popcorn and Barcalounger', I believe is a way of implying that folks will not have a lot of disposable income in their near future, and will be spending a lot of time at home, 'eating popcorn in their barcalounger'.
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Posted: Thu Oct 02, 2008 1:31 pm Post subject: Re: Did they know the mics were still on
Concerned wrote:
Pretorian wrote:
Argentina is a huge country with fertile land, vast natural reserves and a small population with no Negros. Good luck matching that in US.
YEAH them Negros be real scary coming to steal white mans goods, breakin into yer house and rape n yer daughters. Best we be fixen them Negros somehow.
What i meant is that Argentina ddoesnt have a significant proportion of populace living off federal, state and city budgets, they didnt have to spend hundreds of billions on welfare, medicaid, public housing, prisons, ets, to keep everyone warm and fuzzy with a chicken wing between the teeth.
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