Overnight American Armageddon Disciple - or Fast Crasher

Roccland · Peak Oil Prophet Joined: Jun 16, 2007 Posts: 1696

Ok - so our esteemed "pops"...seems to think those who are fast crashers are...

Overnight American Armageddon Disciples...

Frankly - I think pops is a Laura Ingalls Wilder Disciple (and somewhat in love with her)and that perspective is gonna get people killed...

(I see Tyler has jumped over to our side...)

So - and yes I know Fast Crash - Slow Crash...

Inflation/Deflation

LIHOP/MIHOP....

I feel your pain brothers and sistas, but one more time...in an effort to save the lives that pops is trying to destroy...

What say you...

Fast crash (as in martial law, rationing, riots, starvation within 6 months of a "trigger" event)

or

Slow crash (as in grinding poverty, but lights still stay on and cops are effective - time line - none).

Keep in mind - before I was banned from ROE2 (for being a fast crasher) ...Sharon Aysk was a slow crasher ...you should read what she wrote a couple months ago (too lazy to find a link)...on her site "cookbook" or something...She must have been taking notes from my posts.

She has too come over to the dark side...
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If you are paying attention, over the past few years there has been legislation and policies put in place in the US in preparation for just such a grim outcome.
Concentration camps being rehabilitated. Army units re-assigned to function internally to the country. Habeas Corpus, suspended. Torture okay'd. Elections stolen. MSM on side with the elite...
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smallpoxgirl · Moderator Joined: Nov 08, 2004 Posts: 6486

I guess I'm more of a slow crasher, but I suspect there will be a lot of sawtoothing. Things getting better for a while, then dropping abruptly, etc. I think the overall process will take at least 5 years. Probably more like 10 to 20.
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Roccland · Peak Oil Prophet Joined: Jun 16, 2007 Posts: 1696

Roccland · Peak Oil Prophet Joined: Jun 16, 2007 Posts: 1696

highlander

The problem is defining fast and slow. By fast do you mean running into a brick wall at 500 mph, or imminent, as in within three months.
By slow do you mean in a year or two, or longer, or do you refer to the long slow slippery slide.
IMO we are way past the overnight armageddon scenario.
How long have you been posting your doomerish views? Doesn't that answer the fast/slow question?

or maybe what we are seeing is like watching vanishing point for the first time, expecting, once again, a course change at the last minute to avert disaster.

for people who have had their retirement in one of the failed institutions, I would say they are voting fast. For those of us watching from the sidelines, slow (until it affects us)
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Roccland · Peak Oil Prophet Joined: Jun 16, 2007 Posts: 1696

RedStateGreen

Rocc, you were on ROE2?

I guess I'm still somewhat of a slow crasher. A fast crash might be better overall but I don't think it's going to happen.
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Roccland · Peak Oil Prophet Joined: Jun 16, 2007 Posts: 1696

MattSavinar · Elite Joined: May 09, 2004 Posts: 2000

Iaato

I've got to go with the slow crash meme, Rocc. Things always take longer than you think in a large, complex system. We have lots of buffers, lots of waste that can be removed from the system. But it will be a huge shock to our entitled populace. So while it will be slow, I think it will be really devastating as we slide into depression.
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Roccland · Peak Oil Prophet Joined: Jun 16, 2007 Posts: 1696

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patience · Expert Joined: Jan 04, 2008 Posts: 1762

I'm a slow crash believer, but like Iaato said, it's gonna feel pretty fast to a lot of those who feel entitled to "the dream". And the sawtooth thing, too. About the time the "entitled" think they have seen the worst, we will drop like a rock again from some new problem. After about 3 or 4 of those (stock market falls, then the dollar goes to zip, then gas goes to 12 bucks, then, food is outasight, etc.) the "entitled" are gonna get nasty and hard to get along with.

That's when you're glad you can hunt and get some raw meat to feed those wolf-cross watch dogs, and glad you remember some trapping lore.
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DoomWarrior

The crash's downward spiral has characteristics of a fast/slow ratchet effect. It's neither fast, nor slow; rather, it alternates among and between the two.