I think this is the beginnings of an economy based on perpetual growth and fossil fuel energy running headlong into geological energy constraints. Basically I see an undulatory downward path for the rest of my life. From here out, I think any rallies in our economic condition are going to be met with spiking commodity prices that knock us right back down.
The Obama campaign finally admitted that the senator had a Kenyan citizenship, though they say it supposedly expired in 1982.
Quote:
"Since Sen. Obama has neither renounced his U.S. citizenship nor sworn an oath of allegiance to Kenya, his Kenyan citizenship automatically expired on Aug. 4,1982.”
You have got to be kidding me. A former citizen of Kenya as president of the U.S.? Give me a frickin' break. _________________ "Since you have chosen to elect a man with a timber toe to succeed me, you may all go to hell and I will go to Texas." Davy Crockett
Posted: Fri Oct 10, 2008 10:02 pm Post subject: Re: Obama Campaign Confesses He Is Kenyan
Here's the deal - the DNC produces Obama's birth certificate, in exchange for Trig Palin's. Deal? _________________ "It's called the American Dream because you'd have to be asleep to believe it."
Posted: Fri Oct 10, 2008 10:27 pm Post subject: Re: Obama Campaign Confesses He Is Kenyan
deMolay, I fail to see your point. What the hell do some obscure British Empire/Kenyan laws have to do with the fact that Obama's politics suck? What do they have to do with the fact that I wouldn't trust him with my money or my wife? He tells people what they want to hear, but his record speaks for itself. I won't be voting for him.
Besides, if the US disallowed dual citizenship, this would be a moot point. I've always thought dual citizenship was bullshit and that the US should outlaw it. _________________ "A little stored food and Bob's your uncle." --TT
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Posted: Fri Oct 10, 2008 10:31 pm Post subject: Re: Obama Campaign Confesses He Is Kenyan
Loki wrote:
deMolay, I fail to see your point. What the hell do some obscure British Empire/Kenyan laws have to do with the fact that Obama's politics suck? What do they have to do with the fact that I wouldn't trust him with my money or my wife? He tells people what they want to hear, but his record speaks for itself. I won't be voting for him.
Besides, if the US disallowed dual citizenship, this would be a moot point. I've always thought dual citizenship was bullshit and that the US should outlaw it.
I won't vote for him because he's a sick little war maniac just like Bush and McCain. Maybe I already mentioned this, I can't remember. _________________ Got Dharma?
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Posted: Fri Oct 10, 2008 11:28 pm Post subject: Re: Obama Campaign Confesses He Is Kenyan
Presumably DeMolay would rather have a white guy in the Whitehouse even if it meant having the bailout Republicans back. _________________ Bugger me, I hear oil's runnin out mate!
Posted: Sat Oct 11, 2008 12:06 am Post subject: Re: Obama Campaign Confesses He Is Kenyan
Oh man now we're screwed. Obama is kenyan, and McCain will be running alone the first couple years until Palin gets parole.
Oh no! What if it's so screwed up we can't have a "fair" election?
Guess we better postpone it. That's the right thing to do right? Err - I mean "correct" thing to do. Didn't want that confused with a shot at the right. Err - conservatives - err - neocons.
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Posted: Sat Oct 11, 2008 4:13 am Post subject: Re: Obama Campaign Confesses He Is Kenyan
Won't matter.
The media has paid no attention to the fact his first job was for a terrorist, no attention to his legal affairs with ACORN intimidating banks to give inappropriate loans and register dead people to vote, no attention to the fact he couldn't get hired in DC with a background check, little attention to his 20 years in a black supremacist church, no attention to a racist Farekan naming him as the messiah, no attention to his total lack of experience. Why should they care about his nationality?
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Posted: Sat Oct 11, 2008 4:20 am Post subject: Re: Obama Campaign Confesses He Is Kenyan
Fishman wrote:
Won't matter.
The media has paid no attention to the fact his first job was for a terrorist, no attention to his legal affairs with ACORN intimidating banks to give inappropriate loans and register dead people to vote, no attention to the fact he couldn't get hired in DC with a background check, little attention to his 20 years in a black supremacist church, no attention to a racist Farekan naming him as the messiah, no attention to his total lack of experience. Why should they care about his nationality?
Geez, somebody's bitter. You betchya. _________________ Riches are not from abundance of worldly goods, but from a contented mind.
Posted: Sat Oct 11, 2008 4:32 am Post subject: Re: Obama Campaign Confesses He Is Kenyan
American Dream, where did I make any comment about Obama at all. I just posted an article I found on the web. I can't vote anyway in the USA as I am not a citizen of the USA. I posted it so I could hear comments from Americans, and in this way try to determine if the statement was true. What's wrong your little panties cutting off your blood flow, you sound like a racist. _________________ "Since you have chosen to elect a man with a timber toe to succeed me, you may all go to hell and I will go to Texas." Davy Crockett
Posted: Sat Oct 11, 2008 5:27 am Post subject: Re: Obama Campaign Confesses He Is Kenyan
I'm 41 years old and have paid attention to every presidential election since I was nine years old (Ford vs. Carter). But the hatred in this election season is something I've never seen before -- people calling Obama a terrorist, traitor, threatening him with death, etc. I applaud McCain for standing up to the hatred at his rallies, even though he was booed for it. That was courageous.
I hope the hate stops, but I see it continues here on this forum and is stoked by the hate-mongers elsewhere, including at Faux News. If the crumbling economy wasn't enough, now we have to deal with people who consider accusations as fact and rumors as reality. Some are even willing to threaten murder because of it. I never thought I'd see this from a nation that once legitimately claimed to be a "beacon" to the world.
I am really scared for my country. Let me leave you with this quote....
"The people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the peacemakers for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country." -- Hermann Goering
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Posted: Sat Oct 11, 2008 6:08 am Post subject: Re: Obama Campaign Confesses He Is Kenyan
Fishman wrote:
the fact his first job was for a terrorist,
"the fact"
"John McCain's campaign released a list of 100 former ambassadors endorsing the GOP presidential nominee.
Second on the list, though her name is misspelled, is Leonore Annenberg, currently the president and chairman of the Annenberg Foundation and widow of ambassador and philanthropist Walter Annenberg. Ms. Annenberg was herself the "chief of protocol" at the State Department under President Reagan.
If the last name sounds familiar, it's because it also graces the name of the Chicago education board where Barack Obama and William Ayers sat in the room six times together."
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Posted: Sat Oct 11, 2008 6:15 am Post subject: Re: Obama Campaign Confesses He Is Kenyan
Fishman wrote:
his legal affairs with ACORN intimidating banks to give inappropriate loans and register dead people to vote,
'In testimony before the Senate committee earlier this year, former New Mexico U.S. Attorney David Iglesias said he formed an election fraud task force in September 2004 to probe claims of widespread voter fraud.
In an interview, Iglesias said he fully expected to uncover instances of voter fraud based on numerous stories that appeared in New Mexico media that said minors received voter registration forms and that "a large number" of voter registration forms turned up during the course of a drug raid.
"Due to the high volume of suspected criminal activity, I believed there to be a strong likelihood of uncovering prosecutable cases," Iglesias said. "I also reviewed the hard copy file from the last voter fraud case my office had prosecuted which dated back to 1992.
“My intention was to file prosecutions in order to send a message that voter fraud or election fraud would not be tolerated in the District of New Mexico."
"My announcement of a dedicated task force notwithstanding, the firebrands were still not placated," Iglesias, wrote. "I got an angry e-mail from Mickey Barnett, an attorney, who, like me, had worked on the Bush-Cheney campaign and who berated me for ‘appointing a task force to investigate voter fraud instead of bringing charges against suspects.’"
In his testimony before the Senate committee, Iglesias said the task force received about 108 complaints of alleged voter fraud through a hotline over the course of about eight weeks.
"Most of the complaints made to the hotline were clearly not prosecutable -- citizens would complain of their yard signs being removed from their property and de minimis matters like that," Iglesias testified before the Senate committee.
"Only one case of the over 100 referrals had potential. ACORN had employed a woman to register voters. The evidence showed she registered voters who did not have the legal right to vote. The law, 42 USC 1973 had the maximum penalty of 5 years imprisonment and a $5,000 fine.
“After personally reviewing the FBI investigative report and speaking to the agent, the prosecutor I had assigned, Mr. [Rumaldo] Armijo, and conferring with [a Justice Department official] I was of the opinion that the case was not provable. I, therefore, did not authorize a prosecution.
“I have subsequently learned that the State of New Mexico did not file any criminal cases as a result of the" election fraud task force.
Iglesias said that Republican officials in his state were far less interested in election reforms and more intent on suppressing votes.'
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Posted: Sat Oct 11, 2008 6:19 am Post subject: Re: Obama Campaign Confesses He Is Kenyan
Fishman wrote:
his total lack of experience.
Teaching
1993-2004 Visiting Law and Government Fellow, then Senior Lecturer, in Constitutional Law at the University of Chicago Law School. Taught courses on the due process and equal protection areas of constitutional law, on voting rights, and on racism and law. Helped develop a casebook on voting rights.
Law Practice
1993-2002 Worked as an associate attorney with Davis, Miner, Barnhill & Galland. Represented non-profits and private individuals in urban development projects, voting rights cases, and wrongful firings. Filed major suit that forced the state of Illinois to enforce the Motor Voter Law and successfully argued a wrongful firing case before the U.S. 7th Circuit Court of Appeals.
Illinois Senate 1996-2004
Chairman, Health and Human Services Committee
Spearheaded a successful bipartisan effort in Illinois to pass the broadest ethics-reform legislation in 25 years, and gained bipartisan support for his successful bills reforming death penalty interrogations and ending racial profiling by police. Worked with the Republican-led effort to reform welfare.
Also sponsored successful bills expanding tax credits and child-care subsidies for low-income working families, protecting overtime pay for workers, expanding health care for children, and providing job skills training for juveniles.
New York Times chart on Obama's legislative record in the Illinois Senate: http://www.nytimes.com/imagepages/2007/07/29/us/politics/20070730_OBAMA_GRAPHIC.html
United States Senate 2004-present Sworn in 1/4/2005
Member, Senate Foreign Relations Committee
Chairman, Senate Foreign Relations Subcommittee on European Affairs
Member, Senate Committee on Health, Education, Labor, and Pensions
Member, Senate Committee on Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs
Member, Senate Committee on Veterans' Affairs
Shares responsibility for the bipartisan Coburn-Obama Federal Funding Accountability and Transparency Act of 2006, requiring full online disclosure of all entities receiving federal funds, and the bipartisan Lugar-Obama Cooperative Proliferation Detection, Interdiction Assistance, and Conventional Threat Reduction Act of 2006, deepening non-proliferation work with WMD and including surface-to-air missiles, land mines, and other weapons that may be used by terrorists. Also worked with Coburn to end the abuse of no-bid contracts in the wake of disasters.
Sponsored Bill Statistics
Barack Obama has introduced nearly 300 bills during his time in the U.S. Senate, and cosponsored close to 1,000 others. To see his legislative efforts, search the 109th Congress at http://thomas.loc.gov/bss/d109query.html and 110th Congress at http://thomas.loc.gov/bss/d110query.html
S.AMDT.1041 to S.1082 To improve the safety and efficacy of genetic tests.
S.AMDT.3073 to H.R.1585 To provide for transparency and accountability in military and security contracting.
S.AMDT.3078 to H.R.1585 Relating to administrative separations of members of the Armed Forces for personality disorder.
S.AMDT.41 to S.1 To require lobbyists to disclose the candidates, leadership PACs, or political parties for whom they collect or arrange contributions, and the aggregate amount of the contributions collected or arranged.
S.AMDT.524 to S.CON.RES.21 To provide $100 million for the Summer Term Education Program supporting summer learning opportunities for low-income students in the early grades to lessen summer learning losses that contribute to the achievement gaps separating low-income students from their middle-class peers.
S.AMDT.599 to S.CON.RES.21 To add $200 million for Function 270 (Energy) for the demonstration and monitoring of carbon capture and sequestration technology by the Department of Energy.
S.AMDT.905 to S.761 To require the Director of Mathematics, Science, and Engineering Education to establish a program to recruit and provide mentors for women and underrepresented minorities who are interested in careers in mathematics, science, and engineering.
S.AMDT.923 to S.761 To expand the pipeline of individuals entering the science, technology, engineering, and mathematics fields to support United States innovation and competitiveness.
S.AMDT.924 to S.761 To establish summer term education programs.
S.AMDT.2519 to H.R.2638 To provide that one of the funds appropriated or otherwise made available by this Act may be used to enter into a contract in an amount greater than $5 million or to award a grant in excess of such amount unless the prospective contractor or grantee certifies in writing to the agency awarding the contract or grant that the contractor or grantee owes no past due Federal tax liability.
S.AMDT.2588 to H.R.976 To provide certain employment protections for family members who are caring for members of the Armed Forces recovering from illnesses and injuries incurred on active duty.
S.AMDT.2658 to H.R.2642 To provide that none of the funds appropriated or otherwise made available by this Act may be used to enter into a contract in an amount greater than $5,000,000 or to award a grant in excess of such amount unless the prospective contractor or grantee makes certain certifications regarding Federal tax liability.
S.AMDT.2692 to H.R.2764 To require a comprehensive nuclear threat reduction and security plan.
S.AMDT.2799 to H.R.3074 To provide that none of the funds appropriated or otherwise made available by this Act may be used to enter into a contract in an amount greater than $5,000,000 or to award a grant in excess of such amount unless the prospective contractor or grantee makes certain certifications regarding Federal tax liability.
S.AMDT.3137 to H.R.3222 To provide that none of the funds appropriated or otherwise made available by this Act may be used to enter into a contract in an amount greater than $5,000,000 or to award a grant in excess of such amount unless the prospective contractor or grantee makes certain certifications regarding Federal tax liability.
S.AMDT.3234 to H.R.3093 To provide that none of the funds appropriated or otherwise made available by this Act may be used to enter into a contract in an amount greater than $5,000,000 or to award a grant in excess of such amount unless the prospective contractor or grantee makes certain certifications regarding Federal tax liability.
S.AMDT.3331 to H.R.3043 To provide that none of the funds appropriated or otherwise made available by this Act may be used to enter into a contract in an amount greater than $5,000,000 or to award a grant in excess of such amount unless the prospective contractor or grantee makes certain certifications regarding Federal tax liability.
Senate Resolutions Passed:
S.RES.133 : A resolution celebrating the life of Bishop Gilbert Earl Patterson.
S.RES.268 : A resolution designating July 12, 2007, as “National Summer Learning Day”.
Other Bills Introduced
S.J.RES.23: A joint resolution clarifying that the use of force against Iran is not authorized by the Authorization for the Use of Military Force Against Iraq, any resolution previously adopted, or any other provision of law.
S. 453: Deceptive Practices and Voter Intimidation Prevention Act of 2007. The Deceptive Practices and Voter Intimidation Prevention Act of 2007 (H.R.1281), (S.453), would establish criminal penalties for acts of voter deception. Those who knowingly disseminate false information with the intention of keeping others from voting would face up to five years in prison under the legislation. The Act was sponsored by Rep. Rahm Emanuel (D-Ill.) and 60 cosponsors in the House, and Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.) and 15 cosponsors in the Senate. (20 Cosponsors)
S. 2030: A bill to amend the Federal Election Campaign Act of 1971 to require reporting relating to bundled contributions made by persons other than registered lobbyists. (1 Cosponsor)
S. 2111: Positive Behavior for Effective Schools Act. A bill to amend the Elementary and Secondary Education Act of 1965 to allow State educational agencies, local educational agencies, and schools to increase implementation of early intervention services, particularly school-wide positive behavior supports. (3 Cosponsors)
S. 2066: Back to School: Improving Standards for Nutrition and Physical Education in Schools Act of 2007. A bill to establish nutrition and physical education standards for schools.
S. Con. Res. 46: A concurrent resolution supporting the goals and ideals of Sickle Cell Disease Awareness Month
S. 2044: Independent Contractor Proper Classification Act of 2007. A bill to provide procedures for the proper classification of employees and independent contractors, and for other purposes. (6 Cosponsors)
S. 2519: Contracting and Tax Accountability Act of 2007. A bill to prohibit the awarding of a contract or grant in excess of the simplified acquisition threshold unless the prospective contractor or grantee certifies in writing to the agency awarding the contract or grant that the contractor or grantee has no seriously delinquent tax debts, and for other purposes.
S. 2433: Global Poverty Act of 2007. A bill to require the President to develop and implement a comprehensive strategy to further the United States foreign policy objective of promoting the reduction of global poverty, the elimination of extreme global poverty, and the achievement of the Millennium Development Goal of reducing by one-half the proportion of people worldwide, between 1990 and 2015, who live on less than $1 per day. (9 Cosponsors)
S. 2330: Veterans Homelessness Prevention Act. A bill to authorize a pilot program within the Departments of Veterans Affairs and Housing and Urban Development with the goal of preventing at-risk veterans and veteran families from falling into homelessness, and for other purposes. (1 Cosponsor)
Posted: Sat Oct 11, 2008 7:49 am Post subject: Re: Obama Campaign Confesses He Is Kenyan
I personally think America is at a very tough cross roads right now and can easily tip into oblivion. Since America has become nothing good anymore I am voting for Obama because I know he will stick it to America's stability and really rock the boat and tip the boat over. Real Change indeed! I plan to use my dual citizenship rights when he does and will watch America burn from afar.
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