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BabyPeanut
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 04, 2005 3:36 pm    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

US DOE EIA figures for the US national average price of regular gasoline is $2.21 7/10.
http://tonto.eia.doe.gov/oog/info/gdu/gasdiesel.asp
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savethehumans
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 04, 2005 10:31 pm    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

It closed at $57-something. And the first thing the media tried to get across to us is, "But, hey! It's lower than the $57-something it closed at YESTERDAY!"

Guess that means we can sleep peacefully tonight....
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frankthetank
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 05, 2005 11:08 am    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Since last week (Thursday) the gas has gone locally from 2.129 to yesterday 2.259...insane increases. Should be interesting (expensive for some) summer driving season. Smile These are prices from the cheap stations, all the other ones are @ 2.329
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Dan1195
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 05, 2005 5:42 pm    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

I was just thinking, how the price of Crude Oil has continued to hold steady or increase despite the stronger dollar as of late. This would imply that the price is going up against the Euro at a faster pace. I havent seen any Oil Price vs Euro & Dollar graph recently though.
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jato
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 06, 2005 5:49 pm    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Today:


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Grimnir
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 06, 2005 10:28 pm    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

jato wrote:
Today:


Where? In San Diego?
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bobeau
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 06, 2005 11:07 pm    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Grimnir wrote:
jato wrote:
Today:


Where? In San Diego?


Sorry, no photo to provide, but I saw $2.97 in San Diego today. A station on Clairemont right off the 5. IIRC Super was $3.27.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 06, 2005 11:34 pm    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Several months ago I predicted that regular unleaded would hit 2.50 this summer, and "maybe" 3.00 in California. Looks like I may have been overly optimistic!
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NevadaGhosts
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 07, 2005 3:46 am    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Grimnir wrote:
Several months ago I predicted that regular unleaded would hit 2.50 this summer, and "maybe" 3.00 in California. Looks like I may have been overly optimistic!


The gasoline prices are rising quickly, and summer driving season hasn't even started yet. Shocked

We're averaging $2.51 per gallon where I live, and it's only April. $3+ gasoline is now unavoidable for Nevada and California this summer.

Get the up-to-date daily US gasoline prices here:

http://www.fuelgaugereport.com/sbsavg.asp
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TheSupplyGuy
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 07, 2005 4:37 am    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

The gas around here went DOWN 4 cents to 2.11. Go figure.
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Desire
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 14, 2005 8:47 am    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Light, sweet crude has just made a semi-dramatic drop to about 50 dollars.
I'm mostly posting this to counter what I see as a collective selectivity in posting price trends.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 14, 2005 9:10 am    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Yeah, we need to mention the low prices too! I think today's prices are record lows for the year so far. As interesting as day to day prices are though they tell us very little about the fundamental supply and demand of the market. Looking at the 200 day average over the last few years is a better indicator of that.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 14, 2005 9:11 am    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Desire wrote:
Light, sweet crude has just made a semi-dramatic drop to about 50 dollars.
I'm mostly posting this to counter what I see as a collective selectivity in posting price trends.


I saw a news article saying gasoline stocks went up!
Can someone confirm?
I thought crude went up and everything else went down?
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 14, 2005 9:55 am    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Code:
Contract           Last     Change   Open    High      Low     Previous
May '05 ( HUK05 )  1.5020   +0.0177  1.4875  1.5130    1.4700  1.4843

May '05 ( CLK05 )  50.85    +0.63    50.30   51.04     49.75    50.22

Gasoline
Light Crude

(edit:fixed formatting and missing digit Embarassed )


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Grimnir
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 14, 2005 11:52 am    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Of course, today's "low" price of $50 would still have been unbelievably high about a year ago.
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