Like the illusion of Wall Street, with its vast and powerful investment banks, now shuttered, China too is an illusion perpetuated by the Globalists that gave us the 15,000 mile Caesar salad, poisoned cat food and lead based paint on babies' pacifiers. Like the illusion that money would come from thin air to always push housing prices higher, China has spent a generation pursuing its illusion. Pursuing an unattainable dream to be like the West, while 6000 years of its carefully shepherded top soil blows into the sea.
Wind farms, though necessary, are a classic example of what environmentalists call an "end-of-the-pipe solution". Instead of tackling the problem — our massive demand for energy — at source,
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Instead of tackling the problem — our massive demand for energy
To say a Wind Machine is 'the answer' or to even ask 'Are wind farms really THE answer?' - what is your question?
"In other words there is no sustainable way of meeting current projections for energy demand. The only strategy in any way compatible with environmentalism is one led by a vast reduction in total use. Greenpeace and Friends of the Earth, which support the new wind farm, make this point repeatedly, but it falls on deaf ears. " and " At what point does the switch to the decentralised, micro-generation projects they envisage take place?"
Wind Machines are a fine answer. Wind Farms are more corportitization of what we already have.
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Wind farms are not ugly, the problem is that they have large moving parts. That is very distracting and irritating. Also, to get any kind of relevant power out of them, you need hundreds. Very little power is produced per acre compared with other forms of power generation which means that very large areas are affected.
I say NIMBY, put them offshore. _________________ Peak oil is not an energy crisis. It is a liquid fuel crisis.
That's a good article. It explains what I have been saying all along that even though I am a massive supporter of wind/solar etc. we MUST!!!!!!! scale down. Any large scale energy source will have deleterious effects, it's just that some are worse than others. It means not driving cars in the numbers, not flying as often and as far, it means substituting collective transport, it means living closer to work etc. etc.
In comparing our options however, I will take the primarily visual effect of wind versus the very real health and environmental threats from conventional power generation including the nukes. I would not think twice about having in my "back yard" but would be vehemently opposed to any kind of fission reactor, reprocessing plant, fuel fabrication plant, coal powerplant etc., petrochemical refinery etc. with the constant health threat that they pose. I have not even considered the other threats like explosions (whether accidental or deliberate etc.)
Rerere, Peak oil is only the most clear manifestation of peak everything else. The real problem is scaling way back and reducing the population of the planet through attrition. Without an energy crisis, the collective and political will to do so, will not be realized in time.
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