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PostPosted: Wed Nov 09, 2005 8:13 am    Post subject: THE American Congress Thread (merged) Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Washington Post--Senate grills oil execs
US Senate Energy Committee
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In the last full twenty-four month cycle, 2003-2004, these oil company PACs gave out $2,801,824 to federal candidates, including $2,417,469 (86%) to Republican candidates and $384,355 (14%) to Democratic candidates

Political MoneyLine

Personal Campaign Contributions (per the above source): Note how many direct contributions to members of the Senate Energy Committee:
Code:
Mulva, James J.         
ConocoPhillips PAC         3120
Alaskans for Don Young         1000
Shelby for US Senate         1000
Murkowski for US Senate         2000
Pete Sessions for Congress         500
Lucas for Congress         500
Thronberry for Congress         1000
ConcocoPhillips PAC         4500
ConcocoPhillips PAC         1960
Brad Carson for Senate         2000
Stenholm for Congress         1000
Tony Knowles for Senate         1000
Grassley Committee         1000
Republican Natl Committee         2000
Sullivan for Congress         500
Cole for Congress         500
Total         23580

O'Reilly, David J         
Chevron/Texaco PAC         5000
Republican National Committee         25000
Chevron/Texaco PAC         5000
Chevron/Texaco PAC         5000
Total         40000


So, what I'm thinking is that after the "grilling" of the oil execs, for public consumption, the "real" hearings were held in some back room afterward and consisted of maybe some light snacks, some refreshments, and plenty of palm greasing and back scratching.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 09, 2005 8:41 am    Post subject: Re: Oil Execs at US Senate Hearings Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Yehhhh, grilling, Chicken and Pork. Very Happy
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 09, 2005 8:41 am    Post subject: Re: Oil Execs at US Senate Hearings Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Why don't republicans like capitalism? Surprised

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One Republican set to hear testimony and ask questions, Olympia Snowe of Maine, called on the major oil companies to voluntarily contribute to a federal program that helps low-income families pay part of their winter heating bills.

"It is deeply concerning and, frankly, outrageous that oil companies are boasting record-breaking profits," said a statement from Snowe, a member of the Commerce committee. "These large energy companies simply must not unfairly and overwhelmingly benefit at the expense of our nation's citizens, for whom heating fuel is a basic necessity of life." Link to CNN article


Replace 'heating fuel' with 'gasoline' and you can see where this is heading...
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 09, 2005 9:01 am    Post subject: Re: Oil Execs at US Senate Hearings Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

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Olympia Snowe of Maine,


Olympia is probably teed off. She only got $12000 out of her $1.4 million campaign war chest from the Energy business. She is not getting her full share.

Snowe Campaign sources of money
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 09, 2005 10:55 am    Post subject: Re: Oil Execs at US Senate Hearings Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

GIS for "scapegoat."


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 19, 2006 12:59 pm    Post subject: Ron Paul of Texas -- why the government won't help either Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Although this article doesn't address energy per se, I think it's a good indication of why the current "leadership" is destined to go down with the ship (and is busy punching holes in the bottom of the ship) ... None of our [American] energy or any other problems will be fixed due to a thorougly corrupt system of government.

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The Abramoff scandal has been described as the biggest Washington scandal ever: bigger than Watergate; bigger than Abscam; bigger than Koreagate; bigger than the House banking scandal; bigger than Teapot Dome. Possibly so. It’s certainly serious and significant.

It has prompted urgent proposals of suggested reforms to deal with the mess. If only we have more rules and regulations, more reporting requirements, and stricter enforcement of laws, the American people will be assured we mean business. Ethics and character will return to the halls of Congress. It is argued that new champions of reform should be elected to leadership positions, to show how serious we are about dealing with the crisis of confidence generated by the Abramoff affair. Then all will be well. But it’s not so simple. Maybe what we have seen so far is just the tip of the iceberg, an insidious crisis staring us in the face that we refuse to properly identify and deal with.

It’s been suggested we need to change course and correct the way Congress is run. A good idea, but if we merely tinker with current attitudes about what role the federal government ought to play in our lives, it won’t do much to solve the ethics crisis. True reform is impossible without addressing the immorality of wealth redistribution. Merely electing new leaders and writing more rules to regulate those who petition Congress will achieve nothing.

Could it be that we’re all looking in the wrong places for a solution to recurring, constant, and pervasive corruption in government? Perhaps some of us in Congress are mistaken about the true problem; perhaps others deliberately distract us from exposing the truth about how miserably corrupt the budget process in Congress is. Others simply are in a state of denial. But the denial will come to an end as the Abramoff scandal reveals more and more. It eventually will expose the scandal of the ages: how and to what degree the American people have become indebted by the totally irresponsible spending habits of the U.S. Congress-- as encouraged by successive administrations, condoned by our courts, and enjoyed by the recipients of the largesse.

This system of government is coming to an end-- a fact that significantly contributes to the growing anxiety of most Americans, especially those who pay the bills and receive little in return from the corrupt system that has evolved over the decades.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 20, 2006 10:02 am    Post subject: Re: Ron Paul of Texas -- why the government won't help eithe Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Dr. Paul has a gift for telling it like it is. I wish we had 400 more like him.

Watching the Great American Swindle reach cresendo is truely nauseating. It's like watching a formerly extraordinary athelete stumble around drunkenly on the playing field while his supporters sit in their skyboxes calculating ways to profit from his stinking, bloated corpse.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 08, 2006 11:10 am    Post subject: THE American Congress Thread Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Not being from the US I am constantly amazed at the way US politics works.
A good example is:
BBC wrote:
But Mr Lewis - in theory, at least, one of the president's key supporters - is making his legislation part of an emergency spending bill that provides extra funds for hurricane disaster relief and the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.

How do you end up with a system where you have a piece of legislation covering topic X and people tag on a ton of totally different topics Y and Z?
I can see why they do it;
"nobody wants Y so I'll add it to X so to stop Y they will have to vote against X"
"nobody reads what they pass so I can add anything I like"
"I added Y that nobody wants but they can't remove Y because they also added Z"
How do people do this with seriousness and a straight face?
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 08, 2006 1:51 pm    Post subject: Re: US Bills - how do they keep a straight face? Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

I've given up on them.

Tony Blair said, with a straight face - "the Iraqis don't want foreign fighters in their country."

Satire is truly dead.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 08, 2006 1:57 pm    Post subject: Re: US Bills - how do they keep a straight face? Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Straight answer
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 08, 2006 3:02 pm    Post subject: Re: US Bills - how do they keep a straight face? Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

It's called give and take it's not a perfect system but there isn't a perfect system out there.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 08, 2006 9:10 pm    Post subject: Re: US Bills - how do they keep a straight face? Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Spideykid wrote:
It's called give and take it's not a perfect system but there isn't a perfect system out there.

Yes. The ordinary people give and give and give, and the fat rats take and take and take. Perfect for them. Nuff said.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 09, 2006 12:33 pm    Post subject: Re: US Bills - how do they keep a straight face? Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

rogerhb wrote:
Not being from the US I am constantly amazed at the way US politics works.

How do you end up with a system where you have a piece of legislation covering topic X and people tag on a ton of totally different topics Y and Z?


Read Cadillac Desert: The American West and Its Disappearing Water by Marc Reisner

The pork barrel policies really got wings under them due to these large water projects. They ended up getting tied to everything. If you want to understand the US government, this book is a must.

And you'll get to learn about water unsustainability in the US as well!
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 09, 2006 5:13 pm    Post subject: Re: US Bills - how do they keep a straight face? Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

You mean attaching a bill to provide money for the study of dog sex to a homeland security bill doesn't happen in other countries? In the US it's all about what they can do and what they can't do. If the constitution doesn't prohibit it, then they do it. If the constitution does prohibit it, they still do it, but try to keep it from getting brought before the supreme court.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 09, 2006 5:43 pm    Post subject: Re: US Bills - how do they keep a straight face? Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

we need line veto.
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